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Deuce

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Camber with 30mm drop?
« on: 09 September 2012, 13:28:36 »

Have fitted Eiback Pro- Line on all four corners of my 2.6 CDX. Had an excuse as the carfailed the MOT with a broken rear spring  ;D

Reading all the info I could find on here, I can see that with my 17" wheels, need to be around 8.8mm inwards at the top of the rim in relation to the bottom of the rim to give 1" 10' camber. This being the standardish setting as advised by WIM.

Reading other info here regarding a 30mm drop with lowering springs, the general consensus arrived at around 1" 25' to be an average between driving like a Sunday plodder and someone more at the limit to give the best tyre wear.

I worked out that 1mm equals 12.5 minutes. So, 8.8mm further in at the top gives 1"10'. I made a tool with a 17" pipe, to which I fitted a 10mm projection spacer at the very top of it and also taped a spirit level and an angle finder along it's length. The spacer is 10mm, which gives 10x12.5= 1' 25"!!



My question is though. To get 1'25" the top of the wheel was pulled as far as the adjustment on the lower shock would allow.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: Camber with 30mm drop?
« Reply #1 on: 09 September 2012, 18:01:35 »

Am I doing something wrong?
Highly unlikely, but Chrisgixer is your man for that.

My personal experiance of lowering (BMW E36) resulted in me having to elongate the holes that supported the front struts by 3mm to bring the front camber back in to line so the tyres weren't chewed to bits.
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Re: Camber with 30mm drop?
« Reply #2 on: 09 September 2012, 18:16:59 »

Imo, set it as close as you can to 1.10 for now.

Then get it set up correctly on a full geometric laser line hawk eye( or whatever it's called) such as Wim have.

Best will in the world, it's not possible to set it accurately by hand/eye. You can get it close but it must be checked on the correct rig to avoid some fairly horrific tyre wear problems and odd handling.

I'd suggest -1.30 is too far, perhaps 1.20 combined max with sports suspension. (giving the top of the wheel sitting in board of the bottom /  \ ) as said it may be necessary to elongate the holes to achieve the desired angle. But I've not seen more than -1.20 be worthwhile beyond half worn front tyres tbh. Irmscher also suggest 1.30 which may well give good turn in to start with, but the handling will soon go off.
Some of this can be offset by more toe, but then the outside edge wears as well. It's all a bit too much really.

Nice orgasmagizmo though. :y
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Re: Camber with 30mm drop?
« Reply #3 on: 09 September 2012, 19:04:18 »

Thanks guys, thats put my mind at rest.

Have done about 50 miles in it and all seems well. No problems with handling etc. But I will get it set up properly when I give the new springs enough time to settle in.

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« Reply #4 on: 09 September 2012, 23:04:08 »

Thanks guys, thats put my mind at rest.

Have done about 50 miles in it and all seems well. No problems with handling etc. But I will get it set up properly when I give the new springs enough time to settle in.


...I was just coming back on here to say exactly that, as I forgot first time round. 3-4 weeks perhaps...?

But good man. :y
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Re: Camber with 30mm drop?
« Reply #5 on: 10 September 2012, 21:19:06 »

WIM are a bit far away from me, but they have a recommended centre fairly local to me.

Will take a bit longer than 3-4 weeks, chrisgixer. The car will be getting very little use over the next couple of months and it's on 3000 mile per year max insurance.  :)

I made a mistake with my calculations I think. I was going on 100 minutes being 1 degree. But, it's 60 minutes per degree!! It was very hot this weekend  :-\

The final result is not much different though. 1mm equals 7.95 minutes ( If I am correct). So 10mm(difference inward at top of wheel)x7.95 = 79.5 minutes. 79.5- 60 = 19.5. So, if I have done this right, I have actually got 1' 19.5"

I'll be checking the toe-in this weekend as well, using trackrite thing off a mate. So taking it to get a proper set up and comparing readings will be interesting.
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Re: Camber with 30mm drop?
« Reply #6 on: 10 September 2012, 21:29:30 »

Ah ok, was assuming it was a daily driver. :)
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