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[Kevin Wood]

On paper the 2.2 engines aren't to shabby. 206ft torque @ only 1600rpm which is almost identical to the torque from a 3.0 V6 @ half the power band. However with only 120bhp its not that attractive either.

On the flip side with a good remap the 2.2 would reach 145bhp / 250ft which will definitely give the V6's a run for their money then

I wouldn't bet on that. 

Torque, especially if it peaks low, can make a car feel lively, but it's power that ultimately determines its' performance.

[05omegav6]

And, as our good ol' American cousins are always quick to point out, there ain't no replacement for displacement 

[twiglet]

And, as our good ol' American cousins are always quick to point out, there ain't no replacement for displacement 

My wifes says that too! 

[Jabe]

And, as our good ol' American cousins are always quick to point out, there ain't no replacement for displacement 

VW's twincharged systems think otherwise.   

[waspy]

Already De-cat'd mine and Mrs VXL's estate  it does free it up, motorway cruising speeds are effortless 

How do you pass M.O.T's? 

I would say the cats have had the innards removed plus IIRC its only a visual smoke test on the older diesels 

Nope. Completely removed & weighed in Been like it for 4 years & no problems at MOT time. Just not needed

[05omegav6]

And, as our good ol' American cousins are always quick to point out, there ain't no replacement for displacement 

VW's twincharged systems think otherwise.   

Hmmm, I know if I take a pish 1.4 engine than can just about stir soup, and is really rev happy and gutless, stick a king great turbo on it with shedloads of lag, then, I can add a supercharger so that no one notices just how laggy the turbo is. Then if noone is looking, I can bolt it into a Pishat and claim that it is environmentally friendly to fit an engine that only works above 4k rpm and that is sooo overly complicated that if, and when, it breaks it will be cheaper to buy another car

Rant over, if you can't see through the VW corporate boglox then you probably deserve to drive one

[Jabe]

Rant over, if you can't see through the VW corporate boglox then you probably deserve to drive one

but... but... but... 

[Kevin Wood]

And, as our good ol' American cousins are always quick to point out, there ain't no replacement for displacement 

VW's twincharged systems think otherwise.   

Hmmm, I know if I take a pish 1.4 engine than can just about stir soup, and is really rev happy and gutless, stick a king great turbo on it with shedloads of lag, then, I can add a supercharger so that no one notices just how laggy the turbo is. Then if noone is looking, I can bolt it into a Pishat and claim that it is environmentally friendly to fit an engine that only works above 4k rpm and that is sooo overly complicated that if, and when, it breaks it will be cheaper to buy another car

Rant over, if you can't see through the VW corporate boglox then you probably deserve to drive one

Shhh! They'll be ideal kit car donor engines when the rep's built in manual "car train" system (I can drive 1" from the next car while checking my email...) goes wrong.

Small capacity, so cheap road tax, small, light and 170 BHP.

[VXL V6]

Already De-cat'd mine and Mrs VXL's estate  it does free it up, motorway cruising speeds are effortless 

How do you pass M.O.T's? 

I would say the cats have had the innards removed plus IIRC its only a visual smoke test on the older diesels 

Correct, that way, if the MOT regulations ever change and require the Cat to be physically present it will pass...   

[Jabe]

Has anyone here gutted and passed on a V6? Just curious. 

What about noise levels? Any significant changes?

[Vamps]

On paper the 2.2 engines aren't to shabby. 206ft torque @ only 1600rpm which is almost identical to the torque from a 3.0 V6 @ half the power band. However with only 120bhp its not that attractive either.

On the flip side with a good remap the 2.2 would reach 145bhp / 250ft which will definitely give the V6's a run for their money then

2.2 is 144BHP   151.2 lbs/ft torque............not sure where you get your figures from......

We have had, 2.0L manual and auto, 2.2L and 2.6L.......2.0L ok, in auto a bit sluggish, 2.2L ok in auto neither can compare to the 2.6L auto which fly's compared to the others.....

[aaronjb]

On paper the 2.2 engines aren't to shabby. 206ft torque @ only 1600rpm which is almost identical to the torque from a 3.0 V6 @ half the power band. However with only 120bhp its not that attractive either.

On the flip side with a good remap the 2.2 would reach 145bhp / 250ft which will definitely give the V6's a run for their money then

2.2 is 144BHP   151.2 lbs/ft torque............not sure where you get your figures from......

We have had, 2.0L manual and auto, 2.2L and 2.6L.......2.0L ok, in auto a bit sluggish, 2.2L ok in auto neither can compare to the 2.6L auto which fly's compared to the others.....

The figures are for the diseasel, Vamps, which had 120hp

[Vamps]

On paper the 2.2 engines aren't to shabby. 206ft torque @ only 1600rpm which is almost identical to the torque from a 3.0 V6 @ half the power band. However with only 120bhp its not that attractive either.

On the flip side with a good remap the 2.2 would reach 145bhp / 250ft which will definitely give the V6's a run for their money then

2.2 is 144BHP   151.2 lbs/ft torque............not sure where you get your figures from......

We have had, 2.0L manual and auto, 2.2L and 2.6L.......2.0L ok, in auto a bit sluggish, 2.2L ok in auto neither can compare to the 2.6L auto which fly's compared to the others.....

The figures are for the diseasel, Vamps, which had 120hp

Yes, I had just realised that as I spotted a DTI Estate on Autotrader....

[henryd]

Has anyone here gutted and passed on a V6? Just curious. 

What about noise levels? Any significant changes?

Without cats on a v6 an emissions pass aint happening

[Jabe]

Without cats on a v6 an emissions pass aint happening

Hehe 

Any significant changes of noise with a decat? Presuming all silencers are kept in place.