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[Bionic]

 
My Elite fogs are dim even though I put in a pair of new OEM lamps at over a tenner each! Yep....ripped cos the bulb is integral with the holder...but I wanted them fast. Problem is they are still not as bright as those in my old 2.5 mini FC
Any ideas how I can make them work so I can see when I use them. Frikkin candles chuck out more light than these and in fog they are worse than useless! 

[TheBoy]

Do we get fog in this country? Can't remember the last time we had it enough to warranty turning them on (front or rear)

[Andy B]

Do we get fog in this country? Can't remember the last time we had it enough to warranty turning them on (front or rear)

we had a reasonable mist/fog the other morning. Cars varied from every light on the car switched on, to just front fogs, just rears or none at all!  It was pretty foggy & if I'd had any front fogs (in the Merc) I'd have turned them on. 

[Bionic]

 
Do we get fog? In Leicester and more the villages around it we ofetn get thick fog that is not on any weather forecast. Soar Valley Way can get really bad because the land around it is a soaker for the rain and run off water so its almost always in flood at this time of year.
Oh yeh...we definitely get fog down to a visibility of mere yards and its not just mist.....
If dip beams were used all it did was to reflect back and make the visibility worse hence the use of the low set fog lights. (if they would light up bright enough for me to see instead of asingle candle power) They are about as bright as my sidelights!!!!!!!!
Now any ideas of how I can improve the brightness of my newly installed OEM candles? 

[Marks DTM Calib]

HID kit?

[TheBoy]

Do we get fog? In Leicester and more the villages around it we ofetn get thick fog that is not on any weather forecast. Soar Valley Way can get really bad because the land around it is a soaker for the rain and run off water so its almost always in flood at this time of year.
Oh yeh...we definitely get fog down to a visibility of mere yards and its not just mist.....
If dip beams were used all it did was to reflect back and make the visibility worse hence the use of the low set fog lights. (if they would light up bright enough for me to see instead of asingle candle power) They are about as bright as my sidelights!!!!!!!!
Now any ideas of how I can improve the brightness of my newly installed OEM candles? 

I know what you mean - I live almost in the infamous Cherwell Valley.

Though I reckon I've used the front fogs less than half a dozen times since I've had an Omega. Round here, fog seems to be a thing of history, maybe due to the dry autumns for the past few years.

I find the PFL fogs good enough, as in that thick fog, you're only interested in lighting up the kerbs. Mind you, that doesn't seem to stop the retarded, self-centred chavs around here having them on all the time 

Can't speak for FL fogs, never used them.

Not sure I agree with Mr DTM. Actually, I am sure. I do disagree. Poorly fitted/setup HIDs are a pet hate of mine, as its rife around the dark lanes here. Fogs, being uncontrolled lighting, should never be HID IMHO. Made worse by the fact that they stay on until physically turned off.

[tunnie]

When I was commuting to London up M40, some mornings in the winter could be quite foggy, especially up the cutting

[Marks DTM Calib]

Your assuming I was serious! 

I always found the FL fogs ok (as I did the PFL) when I needed to use them for what they were intended e.g. low down light to illuminate the road under the fog.

Also as we had a CDx, it had HID's so I never used the fogs at all unless its was VERY foggy.

You can adjust the fogs to so you may find they are a bit low.

[Kevin Wood]

I've never found front fog lights to be any use whatsoever, regardless of how thick the fog is, TBH.

I guess if you're down to walking pace and can't see the kerbs they might be useful, but they don't illuminate far enough ahead to be effective when you can make quicker progress than that.

[kcl]

I've never found front fog lights to be any use whatsoever, regardless of how thick the fog is, TBH.

I guess if you're down to walking pace and can't see the kerbs they might be useful, but they don't illuminate far enough ahead to be effective when you can make quicker progress than that.

+1 

[Nick W]

I've never found front fog lights to be any use whatsoever, regardless of how thick the fog is, TBH.

I guess if you're down to walking pace and can't see the kerbs they might be useful, but they don't illuminate far enough ahead to be effective when you can make quicker progress than that.

+1 

+2
Front fog lights are even more pointlessly unnecessary than rears.

[the alarming man]

+3

[Marks DTM Calib]

I did used to find them useful on cold foggy evenings in the Welland valley when visability was very poor.

There is no doubt rears are important, it becomes very obvious the vehicles not turning them on in fog during my commute in a morning as they are almost invisable until you get very close!

[kcl]

I've never found front fog lights to be any use whatsoever, regardless of how thick the fog is, TBH.

I guess if you're down to walking pace and can't see the kerbs they might be useful, but they don't illuminate far enough ahead to be effective when you can make quicker progress than that.

+1 

+2
Front fog lights are even more pointlessly unnecessary than rears.

Here in Finland we DO need rear fog lights during winter when snow tacks to the rear of car blocking everything... Only thing that keeps glowing thru snow is the 21 watt rear fog bulb 

[Bionic]

Ok, very many different thoughts but why were they fitted in the first place. Obviously they were meant to be of use? The rears are brilliant, so why not the fronts?
Get out the roses and a violin  .....I can remember (just barely) the days of yore when I was but a lad (17) in  an open herald NO P*SS TAKE PLEASE......until I got the vitesse 2.0 straight six potter one and both had fog lights that actually did throw a beam far and low enough to be useful. As now they would only come on with the sidelights.  I can even remember sprayint it matt black and having all the chrome re-plated....the wire wheels I added set it right off....AAAAAAAH!
If they could do it then why not now? Has progress turned in regress?

HID's I reckon is a step way too far because they would spoil the original specs far too far.

I suppose I could whip one out and have a look at the new fangled integral bulb holders they have decided to use and see if I can somehow change the bulb to an H1 or similar and see how that goes, if not then scout around for a pair of fogs I can get into the mountings.  Even my older 2.5 had far better ones than this 3.0..progress....