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Re: is this true?
« Reply #15 on: 05 November 2012, 00:28:50 »

I dono but I had the wobble in the stee ring in the jeep and that never affected the breaking nor did it affect the abs so don't think the wobble will still bother me  :P

Sorry mate but you are talking out of your rse - a lot of different factors can induce steering wobble, and to introduce a known factor that could lead to wheel wobble is the height of stupidity - just hope I don't meet you on the road  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #16 on: 05 November 2012, 00:52:01 »

I dono but I had the wobble in the stee ring in the jeep and that never affected the breaking nor did it affect the abs so don't think the wobble will still bother me  :P

Sorry mate but you are talking out of your rse - a lot of different factors can induce steering wobble, and to introduce a known factor that could lead to wheel wobble is the height of stupidity - just hope I don't meet you on the road  ::) ::) ::)

Was going to phrase it along the lines of 'And you wonder how your car ended up in a ditch...', but that'll do :-\
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #17 on: 05 November 2012, 08:06:33 »

I didn't have a wobble in the steering of the omega  when it crashed I said I had a wobble in the jeep .. Guess I'm a rather stupid engineer so god ye bois don't have balls at all!  :) and plus why been so sour about it all  :-\
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #18 on: 05 November 2012, 08:59:23 »

well, most engineers will look at the whole picture, assess the changes in behaviour arising from introducing a change in design,   and reject ideas that significantly detriment the actual performance.


I'm totally with the others,  it's a less than stellar idea,   and certain to induce early failure in other components,  not to mention also making the car less drivable,  and smooth....   and surely the point of a miggy is the smooth drivability and handling.....   all of which is effectively written out of the equation by this move?


but hey, it's you car,  and your insurance claim that will be rejected.   so you go ahead and have fun..... 

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Re: is this true?
« Reply #19 on: 05 November 2012, 21:24:49 »

Ok well thanks for all you comments but say if I got wobble bolts put on an alloy with 108 pcd then they have a centre bore of 60 and got it bored to the same as a omega alloy would it wobble then? cause it actually cant move then  :-\
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« Reply #20 on: 05 November 2012, 21:41:01 »

You missed the point that wobble bolts are inherently flawed, regardless of either the PCD or bore size. :-\

I never said that you stacked the Omega due to wheel wobble ::)

Tell you what, fit wobble bolts, drive your car at stupid speeds over broken up roads and see how long your wheels hold up.  :-X
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #21 on: 05 November 2012, 21:43:08 »

ok only asked!
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #22 on: 07 November 2012, 20:31:36 »

Definitely not safe - don't even entertain the idea.
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #23 on: 07 November 2012, 20:50:04 »

I'd recommend just getting wheels that fit. Wobble bolts are a poor idea TBH.
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« Reply #24 on: 07 November 2012, 22:25:56 »

or use spacers that convert pcd..
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #25 on: 07 November 2012, 22:30:42 »

I'd recommend just getting wheels that fit. Wobble bolts are a poor idea TBH.

I agree, I'm surprised they are even legal for onroad use :-\
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #26 on: 08 November 2012, 13:04:25 »

I would prefer the right pcd wheels too. But there hard to get second hand well the ones I want.

And don't wheel spacers damage wheel bearings eventually.
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #27 on: 08 November 2012, 13:14:04 »

I would prefer the right pcd wheels too. But there hard to get second hand well the ones I want.

And don't wheel spacers damage wheel bearings eventually.


I'd say that any deviation from the manufactures spec will put greater stress on something somewhere.

Agree with what said on the wobble bolts though  ;)
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #28 on: 08 November 2012, 13:16:58 »

Wheel bearings are basically a service item ::)
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Re: is this true?
« Reply #29 on: 08 November 2012, 13:22:42 »

I would prefer the right pcd wheels too. But there hard to get second hand well the ones I want.

And don't wheel spacers damage wheel bearings eventually.

Not if you get the correct offset of wheel to go with them, so that the tyre's contact patch will remain in the same place relative to the suspension.

You want that to happen in order not to screw up the suspension geometry, of course. What's the betting that the offset on a pair of wheels that you come across, which are already the wrong PCD, being Ok for the combination of the Omega's hubs and the width of your spacer, though?

This is the problem. Adapting your car to match the wheels is not the right way to go about it, because there are quite a few variables to get right and there'll always be at least one bodge.
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