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Sticking Lifter
« on: 23 December 2012, 23:58:43 »

Maybe i jumped the gun as ive advertised my car as spare or repair  :'(
Its developed a sticky ticking lifter , martin changed the oil and filter and added lifter treatment but its still doing it all be it a little quieter but not much .
Question is , how much would this cost to fix ? Should i still run it while its sticking , and believe the cams have to come out to replace the duff lifter .
Not sure what to do anymore other than put some different lifter treatment in  :-\  :(
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #1 on: 24 December 2012, 00:03:07 »

Maybe i jumped the gun as ive advertised my car as spare or repair  :'(
Its developed a sticky ticking lifter , martin changed the oil and filter and added lifter treatment but its still doing it all be it a little quieter but not much .
Question is , how much would this cost to fix ? Should i still run it while its sticking , and believe the cams have to come out to replace the duff lifter .
Not sure what to do anymore other than put some different lifter treatment in  :-\  :(

I wouldn't have thought a second hand lifter would set you back much more than the postage if someone had a scrap head. Yes cams do have to come out to lift the lifter out ....... there must be a guide somewhere  :-\ :-\
Running it shouldn't really be a problem if it only sounds a bit 'tappety' ...... it might even fix it.
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #2 on: 24 December 2012, 00:07:39 »

If you come over this way sometime got loads of lifters and cams mate :y pm me if/when any time mate :y
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #3 on: 24 December 2012, 00:08:04 »

Maybe i jumped the gun as ive advertised my car as spare or repair  :'(
Its developed a sticky ticking lifter , martin changed the oil and filter and added lifter treatment but its still doing it all be it a little quieter but not much .
Question is , how much would this cost to fix ? Should i still run it while its sticking , and believe the cams have to come out to replace the duff lifter .
Not sure what to do anymore other than put some different lifter treatment in  :-\  :(

I wouldn't have thought a second hand lifter would set you back much more than the postage if someone had a scrap head. Yes cams do have to come out to lift the lifter out ....... there must be a guide somewhere  :-\ :-\
Running it shouldn't really be a problem if it only sounds a bit 'tappety' ...... it might even fix it.



This is what im concerned about actually running it , i used the stp treatment so just wondering if this takes time to work . With cams coming out it will need new cam cover gaskets and timing belt kit due , starts getting more than i can afford to pay to fix  :(
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #4 on: 24 December 2012, 00:13:42 »

If you come over this way sometime got loads of lifters and cams mate :y pm me if/when any time mate :y

Thanks symes , i must say the car goes really well but the noise is putting me off driving it  ???
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #5 on: 24 December 2012, 00:15:10 »

if belt not to old it can be re used if not then just belt and cam cover gasket and as for the lifter it will be stiking becouse  of dirt build up and i just removed mine cleaned them and replaced the same 1ns back 2 years ago and had no probs with them cince but that was on a buget  :y
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #6 on: 24 December 2012, 00:17:07 »

mate have you given it a run or did you do the usual=crikey its a bag of spanners and turned it off went indoors waiting for the world to end?? Been there =What you do is-----start it up put in gear and drive it-Trust me it will go away-if it dont save ya pennies and still drive it-over here and we sort it out But TBH noise will be gone by time you got cam belt-dont worry got Sykes&pickavant cam locking kit am a red-neck not a cowboy(Team red-neck racing Rover) :y :y :y
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« Reply #7 on: 24 December 2012, 00:21:44 »

if belt not to old it can be re used if not then just belt and cam cover gasket and as for the lifter it will be stiking becouse  of dirt build up and i just removed mine cleaned them and replaced the same 1ns back 2 years ago and had no probs with them cince but that was on a buget  :y

Hm never thought of that  :) How long do you think the job would take to do ?

mate have you given it a run or did you do the usual=crikey its a bag of spanners and turned it off went indoors waiting for the world to end?? Been there =What you do is-----start it up put in gear and drive it-Trust me it will go away-if it dont save ya pennies and still drive it-over here and we sort it out But TBH noise will be gone by time you got cam belt-dont worry got Sykes&pickavant cam locking kit am a red-neck not a cowboy(Team red-neck racing Rover) :y :y :y

I took it for a run symes , gave it some welly but no different  :( I did swear at it when martin left , engine wise its been really good until now so kind of thought its the last straw  ???
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #8 on: 24 December 2012, 00:23:13 »

Yep, lifters can take a while to refill once they've got air in them. They'll take a good while for the treatment to help too, if it helps, as they are a dead end as far as the oil system goes, so the treatment takes ages to get worked into the lifters..

TBH, the best bet is probably to get a 2nd hand head set of lifters, dismantle them and clean them out (maintenance guide available, IIRC), then swap them.
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #9 on: 24 December 2012, 00:23:19 »

  ....
This is what im concerned about actually running it , i used the stp treatment so just wondering if this takes time to work .  ..

What symes says. Yes, the STP needs time to go through the lifter, they only hold a small amount of oil anyway, so it'll take a little while to do its thing & help clear any blockage. If it's only tapping & not making any heavy knocking, you'll be OK to run it.
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #10 on: 24 December 2012, 00:26:34 »

Mate you should have heard mine 3 days like an jack hammer ;D ;D Loved it-turned up hendrix cd to drown it out ;D ;D
now quietand it done 240445miles and counting :y :y :y :y :y
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« Reply #11 on: 24 December 2012, 00:31:13 »

....and it done 240445miles and counting :y :y :y :y :y

Mine's low mileage ....... 178000  ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #12 on: 24 December 2012, 00:32:33 »

if belt not to old it can be re used if not then just belt and cam cover gasket and as for the lifter it will be stiking becouse  of dirt build up and i just removed mine cleaned them and replaced the same 1ns back 2 years ago and had no probs with them cince but that was on a buget  :y

Hm never thought of that  :) How long do you think the job would take to do ?

it took me 5 to 6 hrs as i took my time and other things to do at same time
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #13 on: 24 December 2012, 00:33:57 »

Mate you should have heard mine 3 days like an jack hammer ;D ;D Loved it-turned up hendrix cd to drown it out ;D ;D
now quietand it done 240445miles and counting :y :y :y :y :y

 :o Its not quite as bad as that  ;D Just use to the normal smooth engine sound . So i should be ok to run it and see how it goes . Should i add some Wyns treatment as well  ???

130k on it
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Re: Sticking Lifter
« Reply #14 on: 24 December 2012, 00:36:15 »

.... Should i add some Wyns treatment as well  ???

130k on it

Isn't there already a lifter treatment in there?  :-\
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