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[Taxi_Driver]

Dont think im ever going to mention the weather in a thread 

[Gaffers]

Dont think im ever going to mention the weather in a thread 

+1

Personally I think scientists should be looking at the increased incidence of TB visiting Tiffins with the the temperature data not CO2 per se

[05omegav6]

they have lots of satellites..

I have lots of teeth, doesn't make me a dentist though

[cem_devecioglu]

they have lots of satellites..

I have lots of teeth, doesn't make me a dentist though

 

[Taxi_Driver]

Dont think im ever going to mention the weather in a thread 

+1

Personally I think scientists should be looking at the increased incidence of TB visiting Tiffins with the the temperature data not CO2 per se

Tho probably generates quite a bit on the way home 

[Lazydocker]

Statistically you can find the evidence to support and oppose an argument for anything with enough time

For me, there is insufficient evidence to prove or disprove climate change with 100% certainty

That said, there's a lot of talk about CO2 levels... Perhaps we should slaughter all the cows and stop breeding them? After all, the animal population create far more CO2 than man

[cem_devecioglu]

"First, the easy part: Most Americans who responded to a Gallup poll on weather agree it's been unusually warm lately. When asked whether the unseasonably high temperatures were the result of global warming, however, there was less consensus.
Gallup asked 1,024 adults if, in the event they said it was warmer where they lived, "do you think temperatures are warmer mainly due to -- global warming (or to) normal year-to-year variation in temperatures?"
The group found Americans' answers broke down along political lines:
    Overall, Americans tilt toward the latter explanation; 46% say the winter was warmer than usual due to normal temperature fluctuations, compared with 30% who attribute it to global warming.
However, these views are strongly related to political orientation. Specifically, 51% of both Republicans and independents say it has been warmer than usual due to normal temperature variations, while 19% and 28% of the two groups, respectively, say it was warmer due to global warming.
Democrats, on the other hand, are more likely to say the warmer-than-usual temperatures have been due to global warming rather than to normal temperature fluctuations, by 43% to 37%.
In general, Republicans were less likely to agree, in the first place, that it has been warmer than normal. Gallup attributes this to geography -- most of the unseasonable warmth has been in the Midwest and the East, where there generally are more Democrats.
Also, Americans' ages and educational levels do not appear to influence their views on the causes of the heat as much as their politics do. All age groups and educational groups were more likely to say the heat is the result of something other than global warming. Gallup summarizes the poll as follows:
   It is fair to say that most Americans do not have the scientific background or available resources to make an accurate assessment of the cause of what they perceive to be this winter's warmer-than-usual temperatures. Thus, Americans, when asked to speculate on the cause of the warmer temperatures, must rely on what they have read, heard, or seen. The types of discussions Americans read, see, or hear on this issue, in turn, are clearly related to their political orientations."
 
 
 
I was curious why some members were so stubborn in that subject but reason seems to be political rather than being scientific!!

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think that the truth lies somewhere in between the two arguments!! 

I believe that the earth does have a natural climate cycle and it has been changing for billions of years.  It warms up and cools down naturally and this is influenced by many different factors, including in recent years mans activities on the planet.

I also think that mankind should pursue clean/renewable energy sources, (ie wind, solar, hydro) and recycle as much as we can! I disagree with the way we are going about it at the moment, particularly subsidies with public money.  A farmer near here has recently filled a large field with solar panels, presumably he'll get better subsidies from solar than he does sheep!! 

These are just my thoughts! I have no scientific evidence to back them up nor are there any links for obscure websites! 

Happy New Year!! 

[STMO123]

We can argue about this forever.

You like facts, Cem, well here's one: The British Isles pumps out 2% of what China does every year, and China is accelerating. They have no intention of scaling back and neither does the US, despite all the noise.

So.........be as green as you like, it won't make a jot of difference.

[STMO123]

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/chinese-economic-miracle-fuels-surge-in-carbon-emissions-6257556.html

[feeutfo]

...And regardless of the country we live in, there's cock the "man in the street" can do about it anyway!

Mind you, if it wasn't this subject it would be something else. Go on, knock yourselves out. And when your done, there's always the What's the colour of shite argument to fall back on.

[Varche]

That will be brown, Chris.

Although Dogs is white if they are fed on bones.

[feeutfo]

That will be brown, Chris.

Although Dogs is white if they are fed on bones.

Varche you are aware. Your now arguing with yourself, about the colour of shite.

[cem_devecioglu]

We can argue about this forever.

You like facts, Cem, well here's one: The British Isles pumps out 2% of what China does every year, and China is accelerating. They have no intention of scaling back and neither does the US, despite all the noise.

So.........be as green as you like, it won't make a jot of difference.

You miss one point STMO.. you are the father of Australia and USA..     erm.. mostly..    Happy new year

[Varche]