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[Nickbat]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/29/opinion-poll-puts-support_n_2381797.html?ncid=GEP

A sea-change in the British political landscape, methinks.

[cem_devecioglu]

inevitable.. and I think their votes will increase more..

[omega3000]

Excellent 

[albitz]

I sincerely hope it really is a sea change,and the big players and their spin machines dont bullsh1t people into going back to them in 2015.
They have already started,with C.A. Moron constantly hinting at an E.U.REFerendum.He promised it before and he was lying,and he will be lying again this time.Hopefully people are now really disenchanted with the lies of the three main parties and wont get fooled again.
Nige was interviewed in The Mail today btw.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254368/So-Mr-Farage-does-UKIPs-leader-German-wife---did-make-kip-spare-room-seven-times-night-fling-Latvian.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Lizzie_Zoom]

As a Conservative I am disappointed, but hardly surprised!

Cameron's playing into the hands of UKIP.

[albitz]

Cameron isnt a Conservative,and the Tory party is no longer Conservative.It has been turned into a social democratic type party just like the other two. UKIP is the only Conservative party in the U.K. now.

[cleggy]

Camoron is so out of touch he doesn't realise he won't win the next election, if he continues to put policies that nobody wants or voted for before the real issuses. Who the hell wants happy chaps marrying, NO ONE, who wants to stop immigration, EVERYONE, who wants to stop foreign aid, EVERYONE, who wants an in/out referedum on the EU, EVERYONE etc.
He is turning into the worst PM ever, including MC Ruin whose lot will get in and destroy the economy totally by splitting the tory vote between itself and UKIP.

The European elections might just shock him into some sense when UKIP gain a large majority of MEP's

Good god if he had been in charge 30 years ago he would just have said bye bye to the Falklands

VOTE UKIP

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Cameron isnt a Conservative,and the Tory party is no longer Conservative.It has been turned into a social democratic type party just like the other two. UKIP is the only Conservative party in the U.K. now.

That is precisely the problem!

If the Conservative Party reflected my socialist principles, whilst being true to Tory values, then there would not be a problem.  But I worry that as Labour became too close to the right under Blair, Cameron is sailing too close to the Left, not helped by the nonsense that is the Coalition.

[albitz]

Im trying to get my head round the concept of a socialist Conservative. Seems a contradiction in terms to me.Like a christian satanist,or a teetotal alcoholic.

[sassanach]

"If the Conservative Party reflected my socialist principles, whilst being true to Tory values"
what are you on about?are you sure your not a closet liberal?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

"If the Conservative Party reflected my socialist principles, whilst being true to Tory values"
what are you on about?are you sure your not a closet liberal?

No. A Conservative Socialist upholds all the prime principles of the Tories;  Upholding of British tradition; strong on law and order; defender of the monarchy; supporter of a strong military, and an upholder of a capitalist system within a democracy. Coupled with that are the Socialist principles of supporting the weak, ill, infirm, old and young, with whatever their needs may be.  The nations wealth must be spent on defence to protect what is precious to a true Tory, but ensuring those requiring State support obtain it.

That is a Conservative Socialist, along the lines of Winston Churchill when he joined the Liberals on a number of occasions, famously once to demand that the ruling Conservative Government build two less Dreadnoughts for the Royal Navy to create a pension system for the working class.

It is not rocket science to understand, but first Blair let go of the true Socialist principles of the original Labour Party (Clause 4 of the 1918 Labour Party Constitution in particular), and now Cameron is failing to act like a true Tory in many areas, along with destroying certain Socialist allowances that once the Conservative Party upheld.

I hope that answers your query sassanach, and feel free to join my Conservative Socialist movement with a vote for me please!

[Sir Tigger KC]

"...... Cameron is failing to act like a true Tory in many areas, along with destroying certain Socialist allowances that once the Conservative Party upheld."

Such as?   

[Lizzie_Zoom]

"...... Cameron is failing to act like a true Tory in many areas, along with destroying certain Socialist allowances that once the Conservative Party upheld."

Such as?  

Weakening the military.  Sticking to being a member of the EU instead of promoting Britain, and allowing sovereignty to still pass to Europe, with our Justice system being controlled by Brussels on, for instance, the question of "human rights".

Then he is attacking the sick and weak with his reductions in welfare and pensions, whilst letting a hidden privatisation invade the NHS and the Educational system.

Overall he is reducing the power of Britain, whilst taking away protection from our weakest citizens.  All round not good!   He is neither a strong leader or a committed one, with very woolly decisions, along with a lack of focus.  If he was a true strong Tory leader like Thatcher I could respect that, but he is not. Far from it!

[cleggy]

"...... Cameron is failing to act like a true Tory in many areas, along with destroying certain Socialist allowances that once the Conservative Party upheld."

Such as?  

Weakening the military.  Sticking to being a member of the EU instead of promoting Britain, and allowing sovereignty to still pass to Europe, with our Justice system being controlled by Brussels on, for instance, the question of "human rights".

Then he is attacking the sick and weak with his reductions in welfare and pensions, whilst letting a hidden privatisation invade the NHS and the Educational system.

Overall he is reducing the power of Britain, whilst taking away protection from our weakest citizens.  All round not good!   He is neither a strong leader or a committed one, with very woolly decisions, along with a lack of focus.  If he was a true strong Tory leader like Thatcher I could respect that, but he is not. Far from it!

Agreed Lizzie

" WEAK, WEAK, WEAK"