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Lizzie_Zoom

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Another Lancaster to fly again!
« on: 02 January 2013, 13:37:47 »

At last some good news:

Two pensioners have successfully restored a WW2 bomber Lancaster Bomber and intend to fly it again after buying four new engines.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20886684

It is a memorial to an elder brother who was shot down during the War in a Lancaster bomber, and joined the 55,573 who died whilst serving in Bomber Command. :'( :'( :'(

A wonderful bit of news, and a real tribute to those who flew in those aircraft.

All be in well it will become only the third Lancaster to be flying in the 21st century throughout the World (two in the UK, one in Canada). :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #1 on: 02 January 2013, 13:54:19 »

great news indeed lizzie, caught it on the news this morning.  :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #2 on: 02 January 2013, 14:15:51 »

this is great news lizzie there brother will be so proud :y :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #3 on: 02 January 2013, 14:18:40 »

this is great news lizzie there brother will be so proud :y :y

He will, and no doubt will be flying with them in spirit! :y :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #4 on: 02 January 2013, 14:28:24 »

In amongst all the doom and gloom it's great to see stories like this that warm your heart and remind us all that there really are some awesome people out there!!!  :y :y :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #5 on: 02 January 2013, 15:41:21 »

Brilliant, now lets get those bloody Burmese spitfires dug up and reconditioned  :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #6 on: 02 January 2013, 15:52:36 »

Brilliant, now lets get those bloody Burmese spitfires dug up and reconditioned  :y

Yes indeed, and all fly together with the "new" Lanc and the Battle of Britain Flight, plus all other airworthy Spitfires.  What a picture that would paint!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :y :y
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #7 on: 02 January 2013, 15:56:27 »

More importantly we might need some low tech equipment to repel the EU army when the time comes.. Right, UKIP folks? ;)
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« Reply #8 on: 02 January 2013, 16:03:58 »

More importantly we might need some low tech equipment to repel the EU army when the time comes.. Right, UKIP folks? ;)

 :y :y :y :y :y

Yes, let's send all these planes over to remind them who gave Europe its freedom and democracy back!

If they don't like it then a Trafalgar submarine with just two Tridents should do it.................. ::) ::) ::) ::)

No I do not really mean that last sentence, but by golly it is tempting!! :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #9 on: 02 January 2013, 16:36:41 »

More importantly we might need some low tech equipment to repel the EU army when the time comes.. Right, UKIP folks? ;)

 :y :y :y :y :y

Yes, let's send all these planes over to remind them who gave Europe its freedom and democracy back!

If they don't like it then a Trafalgar submarine with just two Tridents should do it.................. ::) ::) ::) ::)

No I do not really mean that last sentence, but by golly it is tempting!! :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

Indeed , espescially the French!! Cheese eating surrender monkeys ;D
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #10 on: 02 January 2013, 19:57:57 »

Yes it'll be good to have another Lancaster in the air.It's a nice little museum that the brothers run[I believe they are or were pig farmers]near Spilsby in Lincolnshire.It is though a pity I feel that[as far as I know]there are no airworthy examples of the other two "heavies"i.e.the Stirling and Halifax.
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #11 on: 02 January 2013, 21:45:57 »

I hope they don't come across the same problems that they are having with the last airworthy Vulcan....
All the new technology and they still can't resolve the problem of metal fatigue.
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #12 on: 02 January 2013, 22:34:21 »

I hope they don't come across the same problems that they are having with the last airworthy Vulcan....
All the new technology and they still can't resolve the problem of metal fatigue.

The main problem with the Vulcan is a lack of engines ... especially after last years "incident" that wrote off two low life units .. :(

Without certified engines all the other problems, and there are several fatigue issues I admit, fall to the wayside. The fatigue problems could be solved with time and money, but with no engines it is not flyable... simple as .. :(
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #13 on: 03 January 2013, 08:09:38 »

I hope they don't come across the same problems that they are having with the last airworthy Vulcan....
All the new technology and they still can't resolve the problem of metal fatigue.

The main problem with the Vulcan is a lack of engines ... especially after last years "incident" that wrote off two low life units .. :(

Without certified engines all the other problems, and there are several fatigue issues I admit, fall to the wayside. The fatigue problems could be solved with time and money, but with no engines it is not flyable... simple as .. :(

Its not actualy, they only have a single approved Spar mod left and that does not extend life much longer than 6 months at great cost  :o

The fact is, the airframe is reaching end of life and no OEM is going to support further mod design and approval
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Re: Another Lancaster to fly again!
« Reply #14 on: 03 January 2013, 11:15:30 »

Yep, the organisation having type certification for the aircraft can pretty much dictate what anyone does with it by providing or denying services, pricing the owners out of the sky, etc. There's simply no money that could convince the type certificate holders to develop new mods for a one-off aircraft as complex as the Vulcan and the costs would be prohibitive for any organisation to do it philanthropically.

Glider licensing has now been transitioned into the european airworthiness system and hence I am being told by the company that has "inherited" type certification for my glider that they can extort over 400 Euro a year from me just for the right to fly the aircraft I own before I even call on any services from them. So far I've managed to prove them wrong...

Without access to the original design data and a lot of expertise, going it alone is not an option either whereas it might be in the case of a simpler aircraft like the Lancaster. Other warbirds are much simpler in design, less highly stressed airframes, orphaned from their original manufacturers and/or flying in significant enough numbers to allow other organisations to viably step in and perform this role. It simply couldn't be done for the Vulcan, especially not for a fleet of one.

Ditto for the engines. Unless you can convince Rolls Royce to support them again (they can't) then an Olympus can't be touched if it is to remain airworthy. Beyond the time to overhaul left, or if they require non-routine maintenance, they are scrap, regardless of actual condition. In comparison, a Merlin is a simple piston engine that's as easy to support as a car engine. They are still flying in significant numbers so there is a business case for an organisation  to set themselves up to take over support from the original manufacturer.

Oh, for the days when gravity was the only impediment to flight. Paperwork is much more effective at keeping aircraft on the ground!

I suspect we have seen the last generation of aircraft that will remain flying into old age. In future we'll see them only in museums, which are the most depressing places to see an aircraft languishing, IMHO. :'(
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