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[Andy B]

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Depends... The cheaper tyres tend to need more weights as a general rule

Khumos on originally & Bridgestones fitted ....... because I wanted tyres (it's snowing & the old tyres were fubar'd) and they were available- but £470 for two tyres wasn't cheap   

[Andy B]

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use another tyre shop that knows the job..   

Done by the very same place that would relieve you £638.41 for a 'B service' 

[cem_devecioglu]

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use another tyre shop that knows the job..   

Done by the very same place that would relieve you £638.41 for a 'B service' 

any tyre asking for more than 40 grs is a problem.. either the wheel has a problem or the tyre needs turning..  in rare cases cheapo brands my need more than 50 grs
 
 
I bet tyre is not seated properly..

[Andy B]

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use another tyre shop that knows the job..   

Done by the very same place that would relieve you £638.41 for a 'B service' 

any tyre asking for more than 40 grs is a problem.. either the wheel has a problem or the tyre needs turning..  in rare cases cheapo brands my need more than 50 grs

Thanks Cem. I'll ring them tomorrow & see what they have to say. 

[cem_devecioglu]

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use another tyre shop that knows the job..   

Done by the very same place that would relieve you £638.41 for a 'B service' 

any tyre asking for more than 40 grs is a problem.. either the wheel has a problem or the tyre needs turning..  in rare cases cheapo brands my need more than 50 grs

Thanks Cem. I'll ring them tomorrow & see what they have to say. 

just talked to a tyre shop owner (which I decided to work with him after trying more than 20 recommended shops) he agreed with me.. good brands max 40-45 gr.. chineese brands sometimes needs 60-70 grs.. but these tyres are faullty he said..

[Andy B]

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use another tyre shop that knows the job..   

Done by the very same place that would relieve you £638.41 for a 'B service' 

any tyre asking for more than 40 grs is a problem.. either the wheel has a problem or the tyre needs turning..  in rare cases cheapo brands my need more than 50 grs

Thanks Cem. I'll ring them tomorrow & see what they have to say. 

just talked to a tyre shop owner (which I decided to work with him after trying more than 20 recommended shops) he agreed with me.. good brands max 40-45 gr.. chineese brands sometimes needs 60-70 grs.. but these tyres are faullty he said..

Thanks again .......

[Omegatoy]

Andy, next time you look at the amount of weights check where they are, a poorly trained or a person with  no training will often "counterbalance" a new tyre,seen it loads of times,when you have been trained or taught properly, you learn how to sort it, when its counterbalanced you end up putting loads of weight on it!!

brief expalanation of counterbalancing,you spun the wheel up and it told you to put 25g of weight opposite the valve, so you do it and then spin it up again,it now tells you to put 10gr of weights right by the valve, spin up again and because its moved the dynamics it now tells you to put 10 gr of weight in the middle of the two previous weights! this can go on about 3 or 4 times before the machine says its balanced!
 

[Andy B]

Andy, next time you look at the amount of weights check where they are, a poorly trained or a person with  no training will often "counterbalance" a new tyre,seen it loads of times,when you have been trained or taught properly, you learn how to sort it, when its counterbalanced you end up putting loads of weight on it!!

brief expalanation of counterbalancing,you spun the wheel up and it told you to put 25g of weight opposite the valve, so you do it and then spin it up again,it now tells you to put 10gr of weights right by the valve, spin up again and because its moved the dynamics it now tells you to put 10 gr of weight in the middle of the two previous weights! this can go on about 3 or 4 times before the machine says its balanced!
 

All these weights are close to the valve ..... 

[henryd]

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Depends... The cheaper tyres tend to need more weights as a general rule

Khumos on originally & Bridgestones fitted ....... because I wanted tyres (it's snowing & the old tyres were fubar'd) and they were available- but £470 for two tyres wasn't cheap   

Christ,what size are they ?

[SMD]

   I'm having trouble parting with £440 for 4 tyres

[Omegatoy]

Andy, next time you look at the amount of weights check where they are, a poorly trained or a person with  no training will often "counterbalance" a new tyre,seen it loads of times,when you have been trained or taught properly, you learn how to sort it, when its counterbalanced you end up putting loads of weight on it!!

brief expalanation of counterbalancing,you spun the wheel up and it told you to put 25g of weight opposite the valve, so you do it and then spin it up again,it now tells you to put 10gr of weights right by the valve, spin up again and because its moved the dynamics it now tells you to put 10 gr of weight in the middle of the two previous weights! this can go on about 3 or 4 times before the machine says its balanced!
 

All these weights are close to the valve ..... 

would guess "if the tyre is correctly seated "that you have an egg shaped wheel then mate,or a bad new tyre!!

[cem_devecioglu]

Andy, next time you look at the amount of weights check where they are, a poorly trained or a person with  no training will often "counterbalance" a new tyre,seen it loads of times,when you have been trained or taught properly, you learn how to sort it, when its counterbalanced you end up putting loads of weight on it!!

brief expalanation of counterbalancing,you spun the wheel up and it told you to put 25g of weight opposite the valve, so you do it and then spin it up again,it now tells you to put 10gr of weights right by the valve, spin up again and because its moved the dynamics it now tells you to put 10 gr of weight in the middle of the two previous weights! this can go on about 3 or 4 times before the machine says its balanced!
 

All these weights are close to the valve ..... 

tyre not properly seated or he was lazy to correct the wheel problem..  in snowy days tyre shops are so crowded that balancers become exhausted and sometimes want to quit the job or finish it quickly..  

[Andy B]

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Depends... The cheaper tyres tend to need more weights as a general rule

Khumos on originally & Bridgestones fitted ....... because I wanted tyres (it's snowing & the old tyres were fubar'd) and they were available- but £470 for two tyres wasn't cheap   

Christ,what size are they ?

255/55/19 W rated

[Andy B]

  I'm having trouble parting with £440 for 4 tyres

Believe me, it hurt! 

I also could do with a pair for the back of my Omega






and a pair for the caravan 

[Andy B]

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tyre not properly seated or he was lazy to correct the wheel problem..  in snowy days tyre shops are so crowded that balancers become exhausted and sometimes want to quit the job or finish it quickly..

Done at the dealers, so they don't have that excuse.

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would guess "if the tyre is correctly seated "that you have an egg shaped wheel then mate,or a bad new tyre!!

I'll see what they have to say tomorrow.

thanks to you both.