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No

34 (82.9%)

Yes, when the roads are covered in snow

1 (2.4%)

Yes, from the end of October to the beginning of March

6 (14.6%)

Don't know

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Voting closed: 25 January 2013, 21:19:08

[D]

And I didn't see your edit.

I'll give you a fortnight of winter tyre weather so far. But that's within the realm of a decent summer tyre. If we're talking auto grip then I'd give you about 9months of winter.

You see my point?

Edit typo.

Have you tried a decent winter tyre to compare with though? If you haven't, then there isnt any point discussing it. If you truly have and don't feel that there is a difference, then I totally understand where you are coming from.

Sorry, was I accused of not reading posts earlier? Of course I haven't tried them, as there's no need for them in the uk, and I don't need to try them, as I agree with you they will be better...for a fortnight or a similar pointless minimal amount of time.


Sorry D, but there something amiss if your sc3 are spinning up above zero. Pressures maybe? Age?

If so, your opinion on the subject is frankly of no real benefit to anyone else.

As an example I could state that a pattern drop link off ebay is as good as the GM part, that I dont feel the need to heed actual experience and I am happy to stick with my pattern part for my car. Now experience would state that isnt correct. But I could stubbornly stick with my idea and refuse to accept the possibility that I may be wrong. Or I could try the GM part and actually appreciate what is correct.

My SC3's are under 2yrs old, have even wear and the recommended pressures. The car has been setup by WIM. Something else could be amiss. But this has only started since the cold spell has started. Had no issues in the summer. Real world experience over the last 4 years has told me that there is a significance difference once the temps drop. And this is significantly longer than a fortnight. More like 3 to 4 months.

[feeutfo]

And I didn't see your edit.

I'll give you a fortnight of winter tyre weather so far. But that's within the realm of a decent summer tyre. If we're talking auto grip then I'd give you about 9months of winter.

You see my point?

Edit typo.

Have you tried a decent winter tyre to compare with though? If you haven't, then there isnt any point discussing it. If you truly have and don't feel that there is a difference, then I totally understand where you are coming from.

I have no doubt someone who tries them will not look back..

I know someone here that did look back! At where he'd come from.

you cant be serious or "this someone"

i'm deadly serious, although this is memory dependant so maybe I am mistaken

He's a member here, and I'm fairly sure he's a very competent driver.



Btw, have you seen prices and stopping distances on winter tyres currently? Uk sites so maybe not.

[cem_devecioglu]

And I didn't see your edit.

I'll give you a fortnight of winter tyre weather so far. But that's within the realm of a decent summer tyre. If we're talking auto grip then I'd give you about 9months of winter.

You see my point?

Edit typo.

Have you tried a decent winter tyre to compare with though? If you haven't, then there isnt any point discussing it. If you truly have and don't feel that there is a difference, then I totally understand where you are coming from.

I have no doubt someone who tries them will not look back..

I know someone here that did look back! At where he'd come from.

you cant be serious or "this someone"

i'm deadly serious, although this is memory dependant so maybe I am mistaken

He's a member here, and I'm fairly sure he's a very competent driver.



Btw, have you seen prices and stopping distances on winter tyres currently? Uk sites so maybe not.

nope.. but I can guess.. here when its made compulsory, there was a mile long crowd in front of tyre shops , prices rocketed
and many people buy them with %50 extra price.. I hardly found some for friends after many calls..

[feeutfo]

And I didn't see your edit.

I'll give you a fortnight of winter tyre weather so far. But that's within the realm of a decent summer tyre. If we're talking auto grip then I'd give you about 9months of winter.

You see my point?

Edit typo.

Have you tried a decent winter tyre to compare with though? If you haven't, then there isnt any point discussing it. If you truly have and don't feel that there is a difference, then I totally understand where you are coming from.

Sorry, was I accused of not reading posts earlier? Of course I haven't tried them, as there's no need for them in the uk, and I don't need to try them, as I agree with you they will be better...for a fortnight or a similar pointless minimal amount of time.


Sorry D, but there something amiss if your sc3 are spinning up above zero. Pressures maybe? Age?

If so, your opinion on the subject is frankly of no real benefit to anyone else.

As an example I could state that a pattern drop link off ebay is as good as the GM part, that I dont feel the need to heed actual experience and I am happy to stick with my pattern part for my car. Now experience would state that isnt correct. But I could stubbornly stick with my idea and refuse to accept the possibility that I may be wrong. Or I could try the GM part and actually appreciate what is correct.

My SC3's are under 2yrs old, have even wear and the recommended pressures. The car has been setup by WIM. Something else could be amiss. But this has only started since the cold spell has started. Had no issues in the summer. Real world experience over the last 4 years has told me that there is a significance difference once the temps drop. And this is significantly longer than a fortnight. More like 3 to 4 months.

D seriously. I haven't read all your post, because I'm not disagreeing with your opinion that winter tyres offer improvement over summer tyres. I agree there must be an advantage.

But in the right conditions. Dear oh dear.

As said, this is the first week this year that warrants them here.


I've said a million times sc3 are shite in snow, ask cem
 They really really are. So understand the need to fit something else when it does snow. I simply don't agree on temp. That sc3 don't cut it, as I haven't seen a winter tyre with a braking rating higher than a C, most are D/E. sc3 are B in the wet on mine iirc. A on standard sizes.

As said, once again, this is the first week this year where winters are needed. Here anyway.

[cem_devecioglu]

and as for stopping distances, on snow they have 0 friction

[D]

Stop rolling your eyes Mr Gixer! 

[feeutfo]

and as for stopping distances, on snow they have 0 friction

Yeah good point although Dunlops winter sport whatever it is, is a C-E for wet braking.

[feeutfo]

Stop rolling your eyes Mr Gixer! 

 

[cem_devecioglu]

and as for stopping distances, on snow they have 0 friction

Yeah good point although Dunlops winter sport whatever it is, is a C-E for wet braking.

so you are interested

[feeutfo]

and as for stopping distances, on snow they have 0 friction

Yeah good point although Dunlops winter sport whatever it is, is a C-E for wet braking.

so you are interested

Panto mode?

If we ever have a winter like yours, yes. Without doubt.

Here? No!

[cem_devecioglu]

and as for stopping distances, on snow they have 0 friction

Yeah good point although Dunlops winter sport whatever it is, is a C-E for wet braking.

so you are interested

Panto mode?

If we ever have a winter like yours, yes. Without doubt.

Here? No!

I do believe

[cem_devecioglu]

goodyears best in wet so more suitable..

[feeutfo]

These?
http://www.goodyear.eu/uk_en/tires/passenger/ultragrip-performance/index.jsp?from=browse

C-E

[feeutfo]

Ok heres a test.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/wheels-and-tyres/60808/continental-contipremiumcontact-2

The link is for the summer tyre in the winter tyre test. Look at the wet braking score. Then look at the wet braking score of the best winter tyre.

In fact take snow out of the equation the SUMMER TYRE TROUNCES ALL OF THEM.


as said, if its snows enough in the uk to warrant winter tyres, i might consider them.

Until then....

[feeutfo]

Btw, I don't follow tests, I think they are rigged and vehicle specific.

But as other follow them so rigidly...