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[Nickbat]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9817625/Leveson-EU-wants-power-to-sack-journalists.html

 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Oh here we go again!!

The EU trying to become a Federal power, even becoming something like a Third Reich.  No free speech, no freedom, and no democracy.

I can hear the chains connecting us to Europe breaking further

Our friend Farage will have his day soon at this rate!

[cleggy]

VOTE UKIP 

[ozzycat]

sounds like a little idiot with a tash is trying to make a comeback who thinks up these stupid idea soon they will be telling us when to getup & goto bed when to have sex who we can marry these idiots need a lesson in reality

[Varche]

Sadly I cannot hear the chains connecting us to Europe breaking further

Only being strengthened. Inexorably.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Sadly I cannot hear the chains connecting us to Europe breaking further

Only being strengthened. Inexorably.

The people will decide one way or another.

The power is in the British people's hands

[Nickbat]

Douglas Carswell's quote in the piece is really rather chilling:

"It does suggest that the European project is ultimately incompatible with the notion of a free society."

Never mind though. Tomorrow, Cameron will tell us that the EU is wonderful. 

[cleggy]

Sadly I cannot hear the chains connecting us to Europe breaking further

Only being strengthened. Inexorably.

The people will decide one way or another.

The power is in the British people's hands

Not if don't get a vote on it

[mantahatch]

At the risk of much abuse. We must remeber that europe is now being run by the grandchildren of the nazis. These people where never taught about what really happened. They where taught only the "good" bits.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The power is in the British people's hands

This is true, but the people will be too scared to vote for anything that will lead to meaningful change and will go for the status quo.... 

Meanwhile while Rome was burning........ 

[OOMV6]

At the risk of much abuse. We must remeber that europe is now being run by the grandchildren of the nazis. These people where never taught about what really happened. They where taught only the "good" bits.

I don't understand your comments. Care to clarify please?

[mantahatch]

At the risk of much abuse. We must remeber that europe is now being run by the grandchildren of the nazis. These people where never taught about what really happened. They where taught only the "good" bits.

I don't understand your comments. Care to clarify please?

Not really, except to say the education system has been sadly lacking in a few countries. I do not wish to cause offence or have an argument. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

At the risk of much abuse. We must remeber that europe is now being run by the grandchildren of the nazis. These people where never taught about what really happened. They where taught only the "good" bits.

Sorry, but you are wide off the mark there and to many in Europe your comment would be very offensive.

The people "running" Europe now remember only too well from their parents and grandparents (if they survived the war!!) how their countries were invaded, their people abused and often rounded up and killed by the Nazi menace. Their countries and their people were bombed, shelled and shot at by all sides during the war, and they had the distress of seeing loved ones blown to bits or taken off to a concentration camp.  The children of those times and thereafter are well aware of that misery, including millions of German's who vow that it must never happen again in their name; who question how their parents went along with it, and how they watched as fellow countrymen, women and children were rounded up and disappeared.

Europe is probably more aware of the Nazis destructive powers during WW2 than our own kids, due to Europe actually suffering the most.  To accuse the leaders of the EU of not being educated in those facts is a statement way too far.

[mantahatch]

At the risk of much abuse. We must remeber that europe is now being run by the grandchildren of the nazis. These people where never taught about what really happened. They where taught only the "good" bits.

Sorry, but you are wide off the mark there and to many in Europe your comment would be very offensive.

The people "running" Europe now remember only too well from their parents and grandparents (if they survived the war!!) how their countries were invaded, their people abused and often rounded up and killed by the Nazi menace. Their countries and their people were bombed, shelled and shot at by all sides during the war, and they had the distress of seeing loved ones blown to bits or taken off to a concentration camp.  The children of those times and thereafter are well aware of that misery, including millions of German's who vow that it must never happen again in their name; who question how their parents went along with it, and how they watched as fellow countrymen, women and children were rounded up and disappeared.

Europe is probably more aware of the Nazis destructive powers during WW2 than our own kids, due to Europe actually suffering the most.  To accuse the leaders of the EU of not being educated in those facts is a statement way too far.

They really question it. That is not the experience I have had with young Germans and Austrians. The only person I know that seems to be quite switched on to it is 30ish year old Russian woman.
Where I work brings me into contact with some of europes brightest people. And I spend about a week with them at a time, and sometimes this can be for 5 to 6 weeks per year. We obviously have many conversations on many subjects.

In my experience they do not question and they do not know what happened then. If I am wrong I apologise. But I will put a pound to a penny I work with more young europeans than most people on here. In just this year I have worked with a Russian, a Frenchman and a Dutchman, this year is what, 3 weeks old ? 

 I will not say anymore on this subject.

[OOMV6]

At the risk of much abuse. We must remeber that europe is now being run by the grandchildren of the nazis. These people where never taught about what really happened. They where taught only the "good" bits.

I don't understand your comments. Care to clarify please?

Not really, except to say the education system has been sadly lacking in a few countries. I do not wish to cause offence or have an argument. 

Not sure how you come up with that. I will take a wild guess that it is more of an assumption, maybe based on what has been said by a tiny minority, rather than anything else. Tend to agree with Lizzie.

But as I have stated before, every country in the EU is represented; proportionally to the population of the country. So the UK has more reps than most. Yes, I know, unelected, and all that, but there are British people there. So just to jump on a band wagon and blame either of the 2 largest countries in Europe, or the capital of Belgium, is .... well ..... just that - a band wagon for many. Maybe not all, but a lot.
Any not many people have great words for the press, so why not sack a few journalists