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[feeutfo]

A police officer was walking by at the time and he told us to swap details that's all as no-one was hurt.

I think my friend in the car already had a sore neck and was just having a moan tbh.

This was a 1 mph accident.

She had a prior problem with her neck, if she's getting pain from braking alone.

Personally, unless you want to claim, I wouldn't report it to an insurer. They'll put your premium up regardless of the other party claiming.

Of they do claim, deal with it then.

[JamesV6CDX]

Muppet plod should have at least done a couple of PNC checks whilst he was there, just to prove both parties insured, taxed & MOT'd. Also DL checks to make sure both parties have one which is present & correct. I would have if I was there, just to make complying with the Sect. 170 easier so there's no surprises later on when you phone the insurers and they say 'nope not insured with us' 

Indeed. Even easier had the bobby made the checks and called the MIB at the time! More than likely would have been a s165 seizure too

I totally hear what you say. In fairness, I agree most response/shift bobbies are over-run with "recordable crimes" and are blatting from job to job... but you're absolutely right in that many don't have a clue (or want to know) how straightforward a simple traffic summons is.

[Kate]

Well I hope this stands as a warning to us all.

You pull up to a packed main road in London. You want to turn right. A van driver lets you out so you edge forward in front of him. You look left to see if you can continue your right turn. You have a two second gap. You start to proceed.

BANG!! A biker overtaking everything on your right has driven in front of you on the wrong side of the road. You touch him with your front bumper. He tipples away from you.

IDIOT WOMAN DRIVER!

[Gaffers]

Kate the comments here are nothing to do with gender.

When cycling I overtake stationary traffic on the right, it's a lot safer than cycling on the inside.

Whether you are travelling on the left or right hand side of the road when you cross the line to turn right or overtake you have to give way to anything already there, its the same as changing lanes on the motorway.

That said in this situation the motorcyclist should have read the road better.  He should have seen your indicators, the van stopping and letting you out, realised he may have been in your blind spot and reacted accordingly.  It does seem that he is lacking insurance so you may have got away with it.  If this is the case he is being very necky asking you to replace parts like that....

[Andy B]

....  He should have seen your indicators,  ....

HTF do you see the indicators of a vehicle turning right when you're approaching its near side ........ you'd have to be Superman & have X-Ray vision 

[Lazydocker]

....  He should have seen your indicators,  ....

HTF do you see the indicators of a vehicle turning right when you're approaching its near side ........ you'd have to be Superman & have X-Ray vision 

I read it that he was approaching from the right

[Gaffers]

....  He should have seen your indicators,  ....

HTF do you see the indicators of a vehicle turning right when you're approaching its near side ........ you'd have to be Superman & have X-Ray vision 

I read it that he was approaching from the right

I thought the bike was

overtaking everything on the right

[Rods2]

If he was over taking the line of traffic on the right there are 3 possible scenarios:

1) You checked in your mirror, signaled, did a check in your door mirror, before turning. The motorcyclist saw you indication and decided to overtake anyway, so 80% motorcyclist fault, 20% yours for not seeing him in mirror checks.

2) Mirror signal turn. At least 60% to 80% your fault, depending upon where the motorcyclist was and how long you signaled before turning as you didn't see him and may well of left him with no where to go.

3) Signal turn. 100% your fault, where you didn't see the motorcyclist and left him with no where to go.

The lesson is to ALWAYS have a final look in your door mirror (it is called a suicide check, where an idiot tries to overtake, while you are signaling right) before turning right. Another tip is always when maneuvering to turn right make sure your front wheels are straight while waiting to turn, so if your car is rear ended you are not pushed into oncoming traffic.

[Kate]

I've quickly done a basic diagram.



I'm in the red car turning right.

The van driver lets me out.

Meanwhile the biker is riding along quickly on the wrong side of the road.

He brakes and stops right in front of me.

I brake but the left hand side of my my bumper touches the bike.

[Crazycarzowner]

Based on that diagram - His fault!

[albitz]

I disagree tbh.Nothing illegal about being on the wrong side of the road to overtake another vehicle (its the only possible way on single lane carriageways) as long as there isnt anything coming from the opposite direction which will have to take avoiding action.
With no offence whatsoever intended to Kate,she shouldnt have assumed no-one would overtake the van,although the biker should also have ridden more defensively for his own safety.

[Crazycarzowner]

Nothing illegal in being on the opposite side of the road I'll give you, but if he'd read the hazzard warning triangle a few hundred meters back (if there was one, I assume there was) I'm sure you're taught not to overtake on a junction, especially at speed when you vision is blocked by a big van! And as taught by my instructor 'you've got to be able to stop in a distance you can see to be safe. As he couldn't see how could the overtake on a junction be safe?

Quite a few colleagues have failed their test due to this same scenario as a 'serious' fault.

[Andy B]

I've quickly done a basic diagram.

 ....

Sorry! I thought the bike was coming from your left .....
biker should have been more careful overtaking the van 

[Andy B]

....  He should have seen your indicators,  ....

HTF do you see the indicators of a vehicle turning right when you're approaching its near side ........ you'd have to be Superman & have X-Ray vision 

I read it that he was approaching from the right

I thought the bike was

overtaking everything on the right

Sorry  Matt ......  I mis-interpreted what happened 

[Kate]

You have to be so careful here in London.

When it's busy you can be driving down a narrow road and you suddenly see a motorcyclist coming towards you head on.

Then you have to swerve into the gutter to avoid a head on collision. It drives me mad.

It's worse when it's a car. They really don't give a f*** down here.