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Re: VXR8.
« Reply #15 on: 03 February 2013, 14:27:41 »

Oh, and how does the auto box drive? Smooth changes?
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« Reply #16 on: 03 February 2013, 16:24:12 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG
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« Reply #17 on: 03 February 2013, 16:26:15 »

I am considering one for work if Plan A falls through :-X

They have a full size spare, so a donut tank should be fine. Gas feed straight out the back of the spare wheel well, over the petrol tank and follow the petrol lines. Pair of Led fogs outboard on the bumper, filler where the fog light is :y

Not thought about the front end too much yet, but thinking KME Gold vapouriser for each bank, possibly towards the front of the inner wings :-\ plenty of space in there though :y

If in standard guise I think a KME Gold is close to being man enough :-\ :-\
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« Reply #18 on: 03 February 2013, 16:41:33 »

Two allows some slack for tuning purposes, not seen many with a standard exhaust and the 6.2 is good for 430bhp straight out of the box, which is nice ::)

 Add in headers, a remap and a Wortec exhaust and you're heading towards 480 and that's without a supercharger 8)
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« Reply #19 on: 03 February 2013, 16:56:50 »

Two allows some slack for tuning purposes, not seen many with a standard exhaust and the 6.2 is good for 430bhp straight out of the box, which is nice ::)

 Add in headers, a remap and a Wortec exhaust and you're heading towards 480 and that's without a supercharger 8)

When you go down the forced induction route you have to think differently on injectors and reducer... Both have to run at a much higher pressure ;)

TBH, if I was converting a VXR8 I would be looking at better reducers anyway ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 03 February 2013, 17:00:50 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG

I too have seen this method used.

Just a brass fitment next to the fuel filler cap which you then (using a bayonet fitting) attach the filler section which then attaches to the pump nozzle.

In effect, there is a spare part floating around in your glovebox (or wherever convenient) until you need to fill. 

Very handy, especially as different countries have different types of nozzle on their LPG pumps, so you could have a variety if needed.
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« Reply #21 on: 03 February 2013, 17:02:36 »

Will consider that bridge if and when I turn down that road :y

Needs to at least cover itself one and a half times over to be a viable car :-\
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« Reply #22 on: 03 February 2013, 17:05:15 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG

I too have seen this method used.

Just a brass fitment next to the fuel filler cap which you then (using a bayonet fitting) attach the filler section which then attaches to the pump nozzle.

In effect, there is a spare part floating around in your glovebox (or wherever convenient) until you need to fill. 

Very handy, especially as different countries have different types of nozzle on their LPG pumps, so you could have a variety if needed.

I seem to recall summat about needing an adaptor to fill a UK converted car being frowned upon by the UKLPGA :-\ might have been on TinleyTechs site :-\
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Re: VXR8.
« Reply #23 on: 03 February 2013, 17:09:46 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG
Common enough - they use screw in adapters. See them a fair bit here, obviously nowhere near as common as the usual UK type
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« Reply #24 on: 03 February 2013, 17:14:27 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG
Common enough - they use screw in adapters. See them a fair bit here, obviously nowhere near as common as the usual UK type

As Al has said above, using adaptors is frowned upon here in the UK and actually a non-compliance according to COP 11 so not an option of you want to be on the UKLPG register (unless, of course, you are assessing your own work in which case it's fine >:( >:( ::) ::))
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« Reply #25 on: 03 February 2013, 17:19:04 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG
Common enough - they use screw in adapters. See them a fair bit here, obviously nowhere near as common as the usual UK type

As Al has said above, using adaptors is frowned upon here in the UK and actually a non-compliance according to COP 11 so not an option of you want to be on the UKLPG register (unless, of course, you are assessing your own work in which case it's fine >:( >:( ::) ::))

It's a shame.

Short of welding in a new section of rear panel on the opposite side of the car and having a 'stock' looking filler port, we have to have uglyness  :'(
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« Reply #26 on: 03 February 2013, 17:23:39 »

speaking of LPG fillers, I saw 3 cars tank up with LPG while I was in Luxembourg.

Each one had the filler to the left of the petrol filler at an angle, petrol filler still fully functional, flap closed fully. Looked like very neat job, this was on a new Fiesta too, so not a lot of space to play with.

Don't know how they did it really  :-\

Should add if not clear it was in same space as petrol fillter, so no external signs it had LPG
Common enough - they use screw in adapters. See them a fair bit here, obviously nowhere near as common as the usual UK type

As Al has said above, using adaptors is frowned upon here in the UK and actually a non-compliance according to COP 11 so not an option of you want to be on the UKLPG register (unless, of course, you are assessing your own work in which case it's fine >:( >:( ::) ::))

It's a shame.

Short of welding in a new section of rear panel on the opposite side of the car and having a 'stock' looking filler port, we have to have uglyness  :'(

Done properly and colour coded they can be OK :-\ :-\ Well... Better than the black lump in the middle of a red panel ::) ::)

There must be a solution to hiding it, just need to have a good look at one to find one ;)
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« Reply #27 on: 03 February 2013, 17:39:34 »

Time will tell ::) but basically, anything that isn't designed in from the outset will always be a compromise at some level :-\

Not sure that the Omega filler point is a suitable size/shape to begin with tbh :-\
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« Reply #28 on: 03 February 2013, 19:06:16 »

I changed my Omega Elite 3.2 for a VXR8 in 2009, it's my everyday car and I enjoy it lots!  Fuel consumption a bit iffy especially in around town traffic.  I had an LPG conversion done a few years back.  Saves me about £40 a week in fuel.

Steve

How do Steve. Fuel costs are not so important for me to own a car like that. But lpg would be high on the list once the car is purchased. I mean why not?

Any info much appreciated? Or pics even? :)


Hi Chris

I had the install done professionally and it cost me £2k4 with VAT and it’s a BRC system with two evaporators and extra-large injectors.  I have a 60L toroidal tank instead of a spare wheel.  The 48L or so of gas I can fit in the tank is, in retrospect, a bit small.  This gives me an LPG range of ~180 miles, so a fill up once a week.  The gas fill inlet in low down on the rear offside valence.

I had the fit done in 2009 when I had an 80 mile commute and was putting lots of fuel in - at least once per journey I liked to WOT at least once :-)  The estimated pay back at the fuel prices then (~50p/L for gas and 80p/L for petrol - was it ever that cheap!!) was 20,000 miles.  As fuel cost rose the payback actually occurred earlier.  Also psychologically the lower outlay of weekly dosh helped.

In terms of performance I find that I cannot tell.  Last summer at PVS at Santa Pod, the car achieved a 13.6S@ 105mph 1/4 mile on petrol and  with LPG 14.1S @99 mph.  Someone could work out the power reduction I guess.
I still get through rear tyres at an alarming rate!
Does this info help?
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« Reply #29 on: 03 February 2013, 19:11:08 »

I changed my Omega Elite 3.2 for a VXR8 in 2009, it's my everyday car and I enjoy it lots!  Fuel consumption a bit iffy especially in around town traffic.  I had an LPG conversion done a few years back.  Saves me about £40 a week in fuel.

Steve

How do Steve. Fuel costs are not so important for me to own a car like that. But lpg would be high on the list once the car is purchased. I mean why not?

Any info much appreciated? Or pics even? :)


Hi Chris

I had the install done professionally and it cost me £2k4 with VAT and it’s a BRC system with two evaporators and extra-large injectors.  I have a 60L toroidal tank instead of a spare wheel.  The 48L or so of gas I can fit in the tank is, in retrospect, a bit small.  This gives me an LPG range of ~180 miles, so a fill up once a week.  The gas fill inlet in low down on the rear offside valence.

I had the fit done in 2009 when I had an 80 mile commute and was putting lots of fuel in - at least once per journey I liked to WOT at least once :-)  The estimated pay back at the fuel prices then (~50p/L for gas and 80p/L for petrol - was it ever that cheap!!) was 20,000 miles.  As fuel cost rose the payback actually occurred earlier.  Also psychologically the lower outlay of weekly dosh helped.

In terms of performance I find that I cannot tell.  Last summer at PVS at Santa Pod, the car achieved a 13.6S@ 105mph 1/4 mile on petrol and  with LPG 14.1S @99 mph.  Someone could work out the power reduction I guess.
I still get through rear tyres at an alarming rate!
Does this info help?
 Steve
Did you say 'tyres'?
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