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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #15 on: 31 January 2013, 21:02:24 »

Alloy wheel may have visible crack but worse is unseen  Best all round(no pun intended) to scrap it
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #16 on: 31 January 2013, 21:15:51 »

If it was my boy, I'd get him 4 decent steelies to keep him mobile and safe.  :) If he wanted 4 new alloys he'd have to get saving!!  ;D
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #17 on: 31 January 2013, 21:18:27 »

If it was my boy, I'd get him 4 decent steelies to keep him mobile and safe.  :) If he wanted 4 new alloys he'd have to get saving!!  ;D
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #18 on: 31 January 2013, 21:18:43 »

If it was my boy, I'd get him 4 decent steelies to keep him mobile and safe.  :) If he wanted 4 new alloys he'd have to get saving!!  ;D

If it was MY boy I'd take the keys off him and the battery out of the car until he bought himself some decent wheels of whatever description ... :) I'd then drive him to the station to catch the train to wherever he has to be :)
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #19 on: 31 January 2013, 23:43:56 »

If it were my boy I'd make him walk where he needed to go and I'd make sure it was uphill both ways! ;)
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #20 on: 01 February 2013, 07:45:51 »

You are all of course right. Sometimes I just don't think he realises what his parents have done for him over the years. He is 19 had a moped, then a Saxo and now the Astra. And he still manages to upset his mum and by definition if she is upset that then impacts on me.

He is a typical teenager who cannot see tomorrow, to him there is only now.

Given my time again I would never of had kids, even if that meant loosing my wife. Getting a bit deep this, sorry guys. Rant over.
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #21 on: 01 February 2013, 10:44:21 »

My local dealer used to stock new steel wheels :y before they closed down :'(

Might be worth an ask though :-\

Ps if he only gets one, then he'll be limited to 50mph, assuming it's a different size. Should disrupt his weekend without actually ruining it :y
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #22 on: 01 February 2013, 11:16:37 »

 ::)  I see a bunch of over protecting parents :) :y  not bad..
 
however, there will be no problem welding an alloy and using on rears.. worst case , it will leak air  ;)
 
I guess most of you dont use repaired alloys.. I have been using for 5 years and no probs so far.. and there was a hole  ;D
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #23 on: 01 February 2013, 11:27:27 »

::)  I see a bunch of over protecting parents :) :y  not bad..
 
however, there will be no problem welding an alloy and using on rears.. worst case , it will leak air  ;)
 
I guess most of you dont use repaired alloys.. I have been using for 5 years and no probs so far.. and there was a hole  ;D

No .. the worst case is the weld will totally fail and the rim breaks up ... at 70 mph the wheel is doing approximately 1000 rpm and the forces involved are FAR higher than you might think...

and every bump and corner just adds to those forces ...

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

It is damaged .. scrap it ... your life, and that of others is totally dependent on 4 small patches of rubber to hold you on the road ... don't compromise that rubber in any fashion.
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #24 on: 01 February 2013, 11:31:20 »

::)  I see a bunch of over protecting parents :) :y  not bad..
 
however, there will be no problem welding an alloy and using on rears.. worst case , it will leak air  ;)
 
I guess most of you dont use repaired alloys.. I have been using for 5 years and no probs so far.. and there was a hole  ;D

No .. the worst case is the weld will totally fail and the rim breaks up ... at 70 mph the wheel is doing approximately 1000 rpm and the forces involved are FAR higher than you might think...

and every bump and corner just adds to those forces ...

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

It is damaged .. scrap it ... your life, and that of others is totally dependent on 4 small patches of rubber to hold you on the road ... don't compromise that rubber in any fashion.

Entwood, with a good quality welding it will be stronger than before..  and you need to have a big accident to break the whole wheel.. Please check the yield strength for those alloys..YOu cant break it by simply loading it :)
 
 
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #25 on: 01 February 2013, 11:39:05 »

::)  I see a bunch of over protecting parents :) :y  not bad..
 
however, there will be no problem welding an alloy and using on rears.. worst case , it will leak air  ;)
 
I guess most of you dont use repaired alloys.. I have been using for 5 years and no probs so far.. and there was a hole  ;D

No .. the worst case is the weld will totally fail and the rim breaks up ... at 70 mph the wheel is doing approximately 1000 rpm and the forces involved are FAR higher than you might think...

and every bump and corner just adds to those forces ...

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

It is damaged .. scrap it ... your life, and that of others is totally dependent on 4 small patches of rubber to hold you on the road ... don't compromise that rubber in any fashion.

Entwood, with a good quality welding it will be stronger than before..  and you need to have a big accident to break the whole wheel.. Please check the yield strength for those alloys..YOu cant break it by simply loading it :)

Perhaps ... and I expect every welder has a full x-ray/ultrasound/NDT facility to check their work ??

You want to risk it ??? Fine ... I would not.  :)
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #26 on: 01 February 2013, 11:40:34 »

::)  I see a bunch of over protecting parents :) :y  not bad..
 
however, there will be no problem welding an alloy and using on rears.. worst case , it will leak air  ;)
 
I guess most of you dont use repaired alloys.. I have been using for 5 years and no probs so far.. and there was a hole  ;D

No .. the worst case is the weld will totally fail and the rim breaks up ... at 70 mph the wheel is doing approximately 1000 rpm and the forces involved are FAR higher than you might think...

and every bump and corner just adds to those forces ...

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

It is damaged .. scrap it ... your life, and that of others is totally dependent on 4 small patches of rubber to hold you on the road ... don't compromise that rubber in any fashion.

Entwood, with a good quality welding it will be stronger than before..  and you need to have a big accident to break the whole wheel.. Please check the yield strength for those alloys..YOu cant break it by simply loading it :)

Perhaps ... and I expect every welder has a full x-ray/ultrasound/NDT facility to check their work ??

You want to risk it ??? Fine ... I would not.  :)

no need to exaggerate imo :)
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #27 on: 01 February 2013, 11:55:19 »

Except the repair has failed once before.

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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #28 on: 01 February 2013, 12:23:41 »

kin-ell is this still going on? a simply google search will show you that welding  the bog standard alloy wheel is cheap and common.the trouble is all you need is a couple of bodgers to mess it up(publicly) and all of a sudden, welding wheels is incriedably dangerous and you will die in a shower of alloy shards, guaranteed... ;D ;D
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Re: Welding an alloy wheel
« Reply #29 on: 01 February 2013, 12:24:21 »

My friend had a calliper come lose smashing a hole in the inner rim of his alloy on his classic mustang he took it to a specialist repairer in Birmingham and had it fixed and he uses it on the car for track days and down the strip as well as normal driving and he has had no issues with it so if you want it fixed I'd take it to a specialist and ask there advice
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