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[omega3000]

Noooo if its auto run away! big problems with them!

 Oh dear 

[Kevin Wood]

My dad has recently got a V70 D5.

Not bad, IMHO. Quick enough and reasonably refined but being wrong wheel drive, not really a patch on the Omega. Steering headlights apparently "take some getting used to". Oh, and no spare wheel whatsoever, just a tyre pump with a can of tyre weld.

I wouldn't drive a car without a spare, personally. There is a decent wheel well, so I would imagine you could get a spare wheel in there.

[tunnie]

I was shocked at no spare too, I think the previous shape has one.

As its MotherT she would it change tyre anyway, so calling out RAC either way.

It's got all the toys, some of the newer German cars lacked. Such as memory seats and such, comfy too. Servicing costs though appear higher than a Merc 

[joshwyatt]

I keep getting swayed by the current model Volvo S80, in V8 guise. They're cheap(ish), amazingly well specced and the V8 has a suprisingly 'old school' american V8 sound.
It's a 4.4 with 315bhp, which is respectable...I keep telling myself no, but it's getting very hard. It's either that, or an Arnage, so a V8 Volvo is the sensible choice 

[tunnie]

I keep getting swayed by the current model Volvo S80, in V8 guise. They're cheap(ish), amazingly well specced and the V8 has a suprisingly 'old school' american V8 sound.
It's a 4.4 with 315bhp, which is respectable...I keep telling myself no, but it's getting very hard. It's either that, or an Arnage, so a V8 Volvo is the sensible choice 

For V8 I still want a Monaro   

[Kevin Wood]

I was shocked at no spare too, I think the previous shape has one.

As its MotherT she would it change tyre anyway, so calling out RAC either way.

It's got all the toys, some of the newer German cars lacked. Such as memory seats and such, comfy too. Servicing costs though appear higher than a Merc 

Yep. Told my dad was a muppet for not taking the spare wheel out of the 02 plate one he part ex'ed for it.

Problem is, even if you can't change a wheel, having one with you means you can continue on your way if you call someone out to fix it. Otherwise, if you have a blow out or kill the tyre, you're stuck until you can buy a new one.

Yeah, the level of toys did make me worry about what happens when they start going wrong.

[Kevin Wood]

Oh, and Volvo dealer servicing is a total rip off.

[tunnie]

Oh, and Volvo dealer servicing is a total rip off.

£450 for a full service 

ATF £250, every 3 years.

Lot to be said for Omega running costs!

[Kevin Wood]

Oh, and Volvo dealer servicing is a total rip off.

£450 for a full service 

ATF £250, every 3 years.

Lot to be said for Omega running costs!

There's a lot of stuff on a Volvo service schedule that other manufacturers wouldn't bother with, though. All fluids are changed every couple of years, including PAS, air con is vac'ed out and recharged, etc.

[05omegav6]

Older Mercs pre '98 had pretty vigarous servicing schedules, probably the single reason that they were mechanically bombproof newer ones are 'sealed for life' and a whole lot less reliable for it

Although that does seem to apply to most modern top end cars...