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Re: Tyre temperatures?
« Reply #15 on: 12 March 2013, 20:00:10 »

I have had motorbike tyres that scared me when the temperature got close to freezing but I haven't noticed the same with car tyres.
Yes, a motorcycle tyre needs heat for it to work. I find on the Kwaka, I have to get heat in it before I can use it.

In my (limited) experience, track tyres and semi slicks (the road legal slicks) need the same as well. I wouldn't expect the same of a "normal" tyre though?
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Re: Tyre temperatures?
« Reply #16 on: 12 March 2013, 20:12:02 »

I have had motorbike tyres that scared me when the temperature got close to freezing but I haven't noticed the same with car tyres.
Yes, a motorcycle tyre needs heat for it to work. I find on the Kwaka, I have to get heat in it before I can use it.

In my (limited) experience, track tyres and semi slicks (the road legal slicks) need the same as well. I wouldn't expect the same of a "normal" tyre though?
It was a long time ago (about 25 years :-\). To get anything as nasty now you would probably have to buy Chinese or Indian economy tyres.......
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Re: Tyre temperatures?
« Reply #17 on: 12 March 2013, 20:14:51 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
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« Reply #18 on: 12 March 2013, 20:24:38 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
15 years of riding in and out of central London in all weathers to get to work rather took the shine off for me. :(
Since I moved to Cornwall 5 years ago it doesn't seem to have stopped raining & I don't think I have ridden more than 100 miles in that time ::)
Maybe I should make an effort to get out on the bike this year (when the ice melts..........) :-\
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« Reply #19 on: 12 March 2013, 20:34:43 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
15 years of riding in and out of central London in all weathers to get to work rather took the shine off for me. :(
Since I moved to Cornwall 5 years ago it doesn't seem to have stopped raining & I don't think I have ridden more than 100 miles in that time ::)
Maybe I should make an effort to get out on the bike this year (when the ice melts..........) :-\

what part Andy ???
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« Reply #20 on: 12 March 2013, 20:40:03 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
15 years of riding in and out of central London in all weathers to get to work rather took the shine off for me. :(
Since I moved to Cornwall 5 years ago it doesn't seem to have stopped raining & I don't think I have ridden more than 100 miles in that time ::)
Maybe I should make an effort to get out on the bike this year (when the ice melts..........) :-\

what part Andy ???
Tamar Valley. About a mile from the border  ;D.
Right. Off to Plymouth for the second time today to collect SWMBO from the station.
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« Reply #21 on: 12 March 2013, 20:41:05 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
15 years of riding in and out of central London in all weathers to get to work rather took the shine off for me. :(
Since I moved to Cornwall 5 years ago it doesn't seem to have stopped raining & I don't think I have ridden more than 100 miles in that time ::)
Maybe I should make an effort to get out on the bike this year (when the ice melts..........) :-\

what part Andy ???
Tamar Valley. About a mile from the border  ;D.
Right. Off to Plymouth for the second time today to collect SWMBO from the station.

Only just in Cornwall then ??? :D :D ;D
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Re: Tyre temperatures?
« Reply #22 on: 12 March 2013, 21:13:36 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
15 years of riding in and out of central London in all weathers to get to work rather took the shine off for me. :(
Since I moved to Cornwall 5 years ago it doesn't seem to have stopped raining & I don't think I have ridden more than 100 miles in that time ::)
Maybe I should make an effort to get out on the bike this year (when the ice melts..........) :-\
Better improve in the next 10 days or so!
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« Reply #23 on: 12 March 2013, 22:14:37 »

temperature-wise, there are only two types of tyre - ordinary tyres and snow tyres.

the ordinary tyre has a range of compounds and tread patterns which generally perform better when hotter, and by that I mean as they warm up, they have more grip. This is, for reasons of safety and consistent handling, a very linear relationship. So the answer is no - you won't find any tyres that "drop off a cliff" as the temperature drops.

remember that a tyre is only able to generate grip if it warms up. The slip in the tyre generates heat which allows the rubber to grip.

winter tyres are designed so that they have more grip at cooler temperatures - again a linear relationship between temperature and grip.

At the other end of the scale, grip does drop like a stone if the temperature goes above the level at which the tyre is happy - that's relatively easy to do.
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« Reply #24 on: 13 March 2013, 09:18:45 »

I'm fair weather ;D. But even on a hot day, they need heat before relying on them.
15 years of riding in and out of central London in all weathers to get to work rather took the shine off for me. :(
Since I moved to Cornwall 5 years ago it doesn't seem to have stopped raining & I don't think I have ridden more than 100 miles in that time ::)
Maybe I should make an effort to get out on the bike this year (when the ice melts..........) :-\
Better improve in the next 10 days or so!

Hope you've got a Cornish passport if you are heading this way ::) ;D ;D
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Re: Tyre temperatures?
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« Reply #26 on: 13 March 2013, 11:11:11 »

Road tyres have a much wider temp range of operation, as they have to work with acceptable level of grip from stone cold.

Track tyres have a much narrower operation window when it comes to temp. Track tyres can often see an off track excursion if temp changes dramatically. Endurance racing springs to mind as night falls.

Certainly, bike track tyres see a drastic loss off adhesion if cold. Then come in dramatically once warm, even in temps below 5c.

This would be unacceptable in a road tyre obviously. Although warm tyres are always a benefit, obviously. :)
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« Reply #27 on: 13 March 2013, 12:25:46 »

from experience potenzas also required warming.. and they were street tyres..
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