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[kevinp58]

I have a 2.5 in my unit. A good friend of mine likes his v6 vectras so has a few 2.6s lying around cheap. The 2.2 is too underpowered for drifting and fitting a v6 would cure that. My car also has a long mot and tax, and is a very clean shell which I got for very very cheap so dont see the point of selling to buy a car I know nothing about. Plus buying one thats already a v6 takes all the fun away from it.

I believe that You now would have to get it re-moted and also have it certed by an motor engineer for insurance as it would be very much a different car.  I know they are tightening up on this sort of thing

[rossco]

I have a 2.5 in my unit. A good friend of mine likes his v6 vectras so has a few 2.6s lying around cheap. The 2.2 is too underpowered for drifting and fitting a v6 would cure that. My car also has a long mot and tax, and is a very clean shell which I got for very very cheap so dont see the point of selling to buy a car I know nothing about. Plus buying one thats already a v6 takes all the fun away from it.

I believe that You now would have to get it re-moted and also have it certed by an motor engineer for insurance as it would be very much a different car.  I know they are tightening up on this sort of thing

Yeah I know. So, are all engine mounts different?

[kevinp58]

The 2.6 is the same as the 3.2 and the 2.5 is the same as the 3.0 and I expect all are the same, but I would think the 4 pot would be different. 

[steve6367]

Mines a manual, abs will be getting removed
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Genuine question (just out of interest) - why would you wish to remove the ABS? Is this for offroad / track use?

[cem_devecioglu]

Issues would likely be upsets with other ECU's which communicate.

If yours is an auto - the TCM will have the wrong map and not be happy.
ABS - different unit and config again, eg v6 has TC, 2.2 doesnt
MID - Config will be wrong, easily changeable with tech2, whereas not sure the others are quite so simple.

Could be a fair few grumbles to sort.

yep.. and if everything goes as planned

[rossco]

Mines a manual, abs will be getting removed

Genuine question (just out of interest) - why would you wish to remove the ABS? Is this for offroad / track use?
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Yes, will be used as a road/drift car. I learned the hard way in my BMW that when you're going backwards towards a tyre wall at 60mph, ABS is not your friend

[symes]

v6 has different front subframe to 4 pot -I would sell it and get v6-quicker/simpler and you can sell off bits you dont need 

[tunnie]

Not to mention Vectra V6 is FWD, throttle & breather setup is all totally wrong for Omega.

[2woody]

Ok - some answers to your questions......

V6 swap-in is possible with some effort.

exhaust hangers same
propshaft same (ish) manual V6s have a larger front coupling, but you can stick with the small one if you've already got the gearbox installed.
manual propshafts longer than auto
manual gearbox will allow a V6 no problem
engine mounts on subframe same

electrics. The only way is to start from scratch and make an engine loom for the V6 using a donor loom from a salvage car. There isn't a wiring diagram for the 2.6-Siemens style engine ECU, but its all pretty simple stuff. Just trace each wire interface with the car and replicate. 2.6 is of course drive-by-wire - so there's the added complication of the pedal interface. Note just running a 2.6 with 2.5 electrics is a bodge and shouldn't be attempted.

2.6 V6 is just about the worst of the range for power and driveability. Drop it and get a 3.0.

Don't remove an ABS - EVER. Just supposing you had an accident - how would you answer the question "so you've made your car less safe by removing the ABS.....?" You can add an "off" switch by all means, but don't remove it.

[rossco]

Thats more like it. Useful info, cheers mate. And dont worry about the abs, ive had it removed on several cars and insured with that mentioned.

[2woody]

Insurance is not your problem. I'm a part time expert witness and I assure you that any legal team would absolutely murder you with removed ABS. Leave it be.

[car5car]

Just buy a V6 ....  far easier in the end. 

+1..
 
not worth  all that work..

value increase-part cost/labor hours=0
unless you do it for fun

[rossco]

Insurance is not your problem. I'm a part time expert witness and I assure you that any legal team would absolutely murder you with removed ABS. Leave it be.

Nah Its getting binned, thanks

[Andy B]

Insurance is not your problem. I'm a part time expert witness and I assure you that any legal team would absolutely murder you with removed ABS. Leave it be.

Nah Its getting binned, thanks

so why ask questions in the first place if you're going to do it your way what ever? 

[rossco]

Insurance is not your problem. I'm a part time expert witness and I assure you that any legal team would absolutely murder you with removed ABS. Leave it be.

Nah Its getting binned, thanks

so why ask questions in the first place if you're going to do it your way what ever? 

Never asked questions about whether or not it would be safe to remove my abs, Asked about changing an engine...