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[pauls]

Does anybody know if the law still stands for building without permission. E,g after 4 years with no complaints it all ok. Story a mate has a wooded garage in his garden and he wants to convert it to a tv room. He says its 4metres from his house and as far as he is concerned its been up for over 4 years so he doesnt need planning permision, any ideas please

[Marks DTM Calib]

Depends what the level of conversion is.

If simply a case of install a TV then no issues.

If its a major re-build with wiring the works then all bets are off as although you may not require planning (depends on size, height etc), you will certainly require building control.

[cleggy]

Pretend to be a Pikey take them 20 years to get him to remove it

[bigegg]

long and short (IANAL):
you're ok if no-one complains.
If you can get away with 12 years, you get automatic "retrospective" permission.

[Marks DTM Calib]

long and short (IANAL):
you're ok if no-one complains.
If you can get away with 12 years, you get automatic "retrospective" permission.

However, if you avoid buolding regs then it wont be insured and it makes the house harder to sell.

[mantahatch]

long and short (IANAL):
you're ok if no-one complains.
If you can get away with 12 years, you get automatic "retrospective" permission.

However, if you avoid buolding regs then it wont be insured and it makes the house harder to sell.

An outbuilding can be declared on your buildings insurance, just like a garage. And since when will an outbuilding make it difficult to sell a house ? especially as it is well away from the property as stated by the OP.

[Marks DTM Calib]

long and short (IANAL):
you're ok if no-one complains.
If you can get away with 12 years, you get automatic "retrospective" permission.

However, if you avoid buolding regs then it wont be insured and it makes the house harder to sell.

An outbuilding can be declared on your buildings insurance, just like a garage. And since when will an outbuilding make it difficult to sell a house ? especially as it is well away from the property as stated by the OP.

You need to ensure that the proposal meets the exemption criteria to make sure building regs etc do not apply.

The key is that if you do something that should have building regs approval or planning permission and does not, then that will devalue your property due to the liability, this is the point I was getting at.

Similar for insurance, you would need to make sure they are aware that the room in question has said electrical equipment permanently installed inside.

Its very interesting the number of drive re-furbs and extensions you see happening now which should have planning permission, also the same for knocking down internal structual walls/adding openings which should have building regs.

The key is care and checking to ensure you dont fall into the trap, a little time spent and all that.

[Marks DTM Calib]

An excellent mini guide here for the planning side:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings/miniguide

[Vamps]

An excellent mini guide here for the planning side:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings/miniguide

That is an interesting link Mark, thanks - all good here......

[ozzycat]

very good that mark

[mantahatch]

An excellent mini guide here for the planning side:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings/miniguide

Ok, look at page one where it says a garage at the side of the property is not permitted. Drive round anytown UK and you will see thousands of garages built at the side of the house. Many where built like this from new. My wifes grandmothers house had this from new in the 1930s, then following the car boom many many people built garages and leantos on the side of there houses.
Maybe today it is not permitted. But hey ho my brother got permission less than 2 years ago to do exactly what that says you can't do. I do despair at what the so called rules state and what planners actually allow people to build.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Have another read of it, you are missing the key points. 

Such a development is not allowed on 'designated land' such as the broads etc without planning permission.

You could still potentialy carry out such a build with planning in this location.

[fastandy36]

Google will tell ya.. That clever bugger knows everything about everything 

[mantahatch]

Have another read of it, you are missing the key points. 

Such a development is not allowed on 'designated land' such as the broads etc without planning permission.

You could still potentialy carry out such a build with planning in this location.

Oh I do love it when I over react to these things  Guess it makes me a daily fail reader  Apologies to all for the over reaction on this, no excuses from me.