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[the alarming man]

what ever the cause or the point...very sad that this women thought this was the only way out 

[bored bigyin54]

The " " does stand for a good thing 

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 

no he is missing mine as normal 

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.

The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. 

I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.

I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"

So where the f*k is my spare box room 

you want to be glad you can work . some of us cant . allso we want to

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The " " does stand for a good thing 

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 

no he is missing mine as normal 

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.

The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. 

I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.

I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"

So where the f*k is my spare box room 

But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. .Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'.

[tunnie]

The " " does stand for a good thing 

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 

no he is missing mine as normal 

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.

The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. 

I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.

I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"

So where the f*k is my spare box room 

But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. .Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'.

I wish! 

A mate used to live within 5 minutes walk of Westminster, his rent was more than my mortgage   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The " " does stand for a good thing 

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 

no he is missing mine as normal 

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.

The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. 

I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.

I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"

So where the f*k is my spare box room 

But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. .Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'.

I wish! 

A mate used to live within 5 minutes walk of Westminster, his rent was more than my mortgage   

.....you must go to the same parties as those 'Made in Chelsea' girlies.    

[Gaffers]

The " " does stand for a good thing 

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 

no he is missing mine as normal 

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.

The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. 

I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.

I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"

So where the f*k is my spare box room 

But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. .Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'.

I wish! 

A mate used to live within 5 minutes walk of Westminster, his rent was more than my mortgage   

.....you must go to the same parties as those 'Made in Chelsea' girlies.

I thought he was one of the Made in Chelsea Girlies 

[tunnie]

Well I do have the body for it 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Well I do have the body for it 

Don't tell LuckyLovebum that or he'll be round with a gleam in his eye!!!   

[ozzycat]

you all know what my feelings on this are please read this post on the telly « 1 2 3 4 5  All »
this bennefit cut is not fair on people like me who through no fault of there own areunable to work andthere house has been adapted so they can live in it  plus there wife or partner has to sleep in the spare bedroom please read the post

[ozzycat]

Well I do have the body for it 

Don't tell LuckyLovebum that or he'll be round with a gleam in his eye!!!   

and a smile on his face

[bored bigyin54]

you all know what my feelings on this are please read this post on the telly « 1 2 3 4 5  All »
this bennefit cut is not fair on people like me who through no fault of there own areunable to work andthere house has been adapted so they can live in it  plus there wife or partner has to sleep in the spare bedroom please read the post

no tunnie cant see that side of it . because he has never been in that situation as he has always been healthy and i hope he never has to look at that side of it .when you got no choice but to go on benefits .

[TheBoy]

I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.

The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.

Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.


I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.


No offence intended to anyone here.


Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.

The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.

Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.


I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.


No offence intended to anyone here.


Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.

But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.

Hmmm. Something not consistent here.

[Taxi_Driver]

I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.

The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.

Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.


I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.


No offence intended to anyone here.


Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.

But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.

Hmmm. Something not consistent here.

I assume tho' that they pay for the privlidge .... ie a 4 bed costs more than a 3 bed / etc

[ronnyd]

I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.

The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.

Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.


I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.


No offence intended to anyone here.


Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.

But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.

Hmmm. Something not consistent here.

I believe that some councils are making it a condition that new tenants can be moved when and if their circumstances
change in the future.