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bedroom tax
« on: 12 May 2013, 13:06:05 »

did any one see the case about a woman killing herself because of the bedroom tax :y :y
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #1 on: 12 May 2013, 13:25:46 »

Thumbs up??  :o :o
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #2 on: 12 May 2013, 13:29:01 »

Quote from: bored bigyin54 ink=topic=114707.msg1448208#msg1448208 date=1368360365
did any one see the case about a woman killing herself because of the bedroom tax :y :y


Thumbs up??  :o :o

Yeah I guess a suicide is a good thing in Ralf's world  :o
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #3 on: 12 May 2013, 13:30:51 »

Quote from: bored bigyin54 ink=topic=114707.msg1448208#msg1448208 date=1368360365
did any one see the case about a woman killing herself because of the bedroom tax :y :y


Thumbs up??  :o :o

Yeah I guess a suicide is a good thing in Ralf's world  :o
i didn't say it was a good thing did i . just waiting for it to happen :( :( and this govremet dond care anyway >:( >:(
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #4 on: 12 May 2013, 13:33:39 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #5 on: 12 May 2013, 13:38:12 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
well some people cant aforde the extra they got to pay .maybe she thought it was the only way out . so ok i put the wrong thing on there . so you dont make misstakes do you , should have been these  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #6 on: 12 May 2013, 13:50:54 »

So the bedroom tax is:

Bedroom Tax (also known as "Spare Bed Room Tax") is a change to Housing Benefit Entitlement that means you will receive less in housing benefit if you live in a housing association or council property that is deemed to have one or more spare bedrooms.

Having one spare bedroom will mean you will lose 14% of your entitled housing benefit.

Having two or more spare bedrooms will mean you will lose 25% of your entitlement.

This new tax will started affecting properties with spare bed rooms in April 2013.


With the following rules:

Children of both sexes under 10 would be expected to share a bedroom. If they currently do not share and they remain in separate rooms, one of their rooms will be considered as a spare bedroom.

Children of the same gender under 16 would be expected to share a bedroom.
Couples and adults are entitled to have bedrooms of their own.

If a bedroom (with or without furniture) is kept free for when a child comes to stay with a parent that they do not normally live with, this room will be considered as a spare bedroom.

Bedroom Tax allowance for a child can only be claimed by one parent, even where they share access to the child.
Extra bedrooms for medical reasons will not be allowed and will still be taxable e.g. a couple using separate bedrooms because one of them is ill or recovering from an operation.

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So if you have spare rooms, you have to pay for them? (shock!) Well I want a house, I have to pay more for a house than I do for my flat, why should people in benefits be any different?

People wanting everything on a plate and not willing to pay for it  :(
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #7 on: 12 May 2013, 14:02:03 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #8 on: 12 May 2013, 14:20:31 »

So the bedroom tax is:

Bedroom Tax (also known as "Spare Bed Room Tax") is a change to Housing Benefit Entitlement that means you will receive less in housing benefit if you live in a housing association or council property that is deemed to have one or more spare bedrooms.

Having one spare bedroom will mean you will lose 14% of your entitled housing benefit.

Having two or more spare bedrooms will mean you will lose 25% of your entitlement.

This new tax will started affecting properties with spare bed rooms in April 2013.


With the following rules:

Children of both sexes under 10 would be expected to share a bedroom. If they currently do not share and they remain in separate rooms, one of their rooms will be considered as a spare bedroom.

Children of the same gender under 16 would be expected to share a bedroom.
Couples and adults are entitled to have bedrooms of their own.

If a bedroom (with or without furniture) is kept free for when a child comes to stay with a parent that they do not normally live with, this room will be considered as a spare bedroom.

Bedroom Tax allowance for a child can only be claimed by one parent, even where they share access to the child.
Extra bedrooms for medical reasons will not be allowed and will still be taxable e.g. a couple using separate bedrooms because one of them is ill or recovering from an operation.

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So if you have spare rooms, you have to pay for them? (shock!) Well I want a house, I have to pay more for a house than I do for my flat, why should people in benefits be any different?

People wanting everything on a plate and not willing to pay for it  :(
bed room tax is another way to hit the poor and disabled . end of story  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #9 on: 12 May 2013, 14:21:42 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
no he is missing mine as normal  >:( >:(
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #10 on: 12 May 2013, 14:27:06 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
no he is missing mine as normal  >:( >:(

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #11 on: 12 May 2013, 14:31:40 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
no he is missing mine as normal  >:( >:(

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
they are not a luxury to me . i haven't got a spare room its a little box  room not big enough for a bed  >:( >:(and by the way theres no two bedroom houses or flats where i live anyway :( :(  and not everyone on benefits because they want to be . i would rather be working but no one will give me a job >:( >:(
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #12 on: 12 May 2013, 14:56:02 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
no he is missing mine as normal  >:( >:(

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.



The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to.  :-\ 
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« Reply #13 on: 12 May 2013, 14:58:35 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
no he is missing mine as normal  >:( >:(

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.



The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society. :-\
i am glad some one sees my point of view :y :y
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Re: bedroom tax
« Reply #14 on: 12 May 2013, 15:03:29 »

The " :y" does stand for a good thing  ???

Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.

You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... 
no he is missing mine as normal  >:( >:(

Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.

Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.



The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.

However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.

It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to.  :-\

I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.

I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"

So where the f*k is my spare box room  ::)
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