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peter the butcher

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Tracking, never had it done
« on: 14 May 2013, 16:44:26 »
Hi all,
as I am quite new to the Omega, it seems there are some do's and do not's, when it comes to tracking,
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"A tracking or 4 wheel alignment on it will be a waste of money I'm afraid."
As I live up in north yorkshire, the only people that I know of, are a north east tyre group who do the" lazer job". I was wondering if there are any members who could recommend someone who knows what they are doing, as am getting 2 new front tyres, and do not want them going round the outside edges ( as the ones that are on now are  :()

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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #1 on: 14 May 2013, 17:12:11 »
Try this site which should give you a geometry setting unit who will use WIM's (Chesham) settings for your Omega. : http://www.blackboots.co.uk/order.php?step=5
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #2 on: 14 May 2013, 17:56:07 »
Not sure where the quote's come from.

BUT

my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.

Anyone agree with that?
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #3 on: 14 May 2013, 18:13:16 »
Quote from: Webby the Bear on 14 May 2013, 17:56:07
Not sure where the quote's come from.

BUT

my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.

Anyone agree with that?

Sort of .. but not quite ... :)

Specs as provided by vauxhall are perfect .. on a brand new car straight off the production line, or one fairly close to that ...

Specs as provided by WIM after their research/experience are far better on a car that has done many thousands of miles, and most omegas are up around the 80,000 + (some by a very big + with many over 100,000  :) ) so things have worn/settled/changed (delete as appropriate) :)
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #4 on: 14 May 2013, 18:20:14 »
Quote from: Webby the Bear on 14 May 2013, 17:56:07
Not sure where the quote's come
The quote came from a thread, think on page 86, ish

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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #5 on: 14 May 2013, 18:20:26 »
Quote from: Entwood on 14 May 2013, 18:13:16
Quote from: Webby the Bear on 14 May 2013, 17:56:07
Not sure where the quote's come from.

BUT

my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.

Anyone agree with that?

Sort of .. but not quite ... :)

Specs as provided by vauxhall are perfect .. on a brand new car straight off the production line, or one fairly close to that ...

Specs as provided by WIM after their research/experience are far better on a car that has done many thousands of miles, and most omegas are up around the 80,000 + (some by a very big + with many over 100,000  :) ) so things have worn/settled/changed (delete as appropriate) :)

 :y

I suppose the size/weight of the car also plays a part in that over time
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #6 on: 14 May 2013, 18:34:03 »
well it looks like a road trip to Scarborough, there is an agent there, according to the blackboots website. Just make sure its a sunny day to go to the seaside eh  ;D

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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #7 on: 14 May 2013, 18:39:50 »
Quote from: Entwood on 14 May 2013, 18:13:16
Quote from: Webby the Bear on 14 May 2013, 17:56:07
Not sure where the quote's come from.

BUT

my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.

Anyone agree with that?

Sort of .. but not quite ... :)

Specs as provided by vauxhall are perfect .. on a brand new car straight off the production line, or one fairly close to that ...

Specs as provided by WIM after their research/experience are far better on a car that has done many thousands of miles, and most omegas are up around the 80,000 + (some by a very big + with many over 100,000  :) ) so things have worn/settled/changed (delete as appropriate) :)

I think the tolerance from the factory is far too wide (worth a read of Tony - WIM's words in the guides).

The figures that Tony came up with are an ideal given various variables such as ride height, suspension age and version, normal load carried etc. These provide the best compromise of handling V tyre wear as I understand it.

I'm probably way off the mark so apologies if i'm totally wrong.
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #8 on: 14 May 2013, 19:15:20 »
I had mine done on a computerized 4 wheel system at  my local tyre depot when I got the new tyres on few months ago. Not sure which figures they used but there is no evidence of tramlining or uneven wear anywhere with over 4000 miles done since, tyres still look like new but maybe its too early to tell yet
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #9 on: 14 May 2013, 20:27:46 »
makes me want to borrow my schools wheel alignment kit (manual set up) to check the toe on mine.... just purely out of interest
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #10 on: 15 May 2013, 00:20:41 »
Probably worth checking the state of the front suspension components first :y Alignment, however proper, will only be as good as the bushes :-\

If your bushes/ball joints are on their last legs, you might as well burn the £90 rather than getting the alignment done. If all is well then get it set up and happy days :y If not, renew as necessary, then get set up done :y
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #11 on: 15 May 2013, 10:04:09 »
 :y
That I will do, as you say, it will be a waste of time and money if the bushes only last a short while. Thanks for that info, not thought of that (its an age thing I have just been told)

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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #12 on: 15 May 2013, 10:35:57 »
Fit polys to the front wishbone bushes: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109953.0 and then get it tracked. :y
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #13 on: 15 May 2013, 11:57:53 »
Do you actually have a problem with tyre wear? How did the last tyres wear?
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Re: Tracking, never had it done
« Reply #14 on: 15 May 2013, 13:00:07 »
I have an advisory on the MOT from december last, and have just had the car for a few weeks, so rather than wait for next MOT, thought about  getting them changed in the next few weeks. the front ones are wearing a tad thin on the outside edges. And as the old saying goes, "strike while the irons hot"
I am one of those guys, who does not know much about the mechanical side of things,  :( and takes the advice of fellow "marque owners"

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