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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #15 on: 30 May 2013, 20:21:32 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 30 May 2013, 20:19:04
Quote from: John Doh! on 30 May 2013, 20:17:30
Saves the need for a witness. Assuming the incident is visible. No?
and would any defence easily claim entrapment.

Insurance can be discounted if used, heavily in use in Europe to reduce premiums.

Easily court evidence quality  :)
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #16 on: 30 May 2013, 20:25:40 »
Quote from: tunnie on 30 May 2013, 20:21:32
Easily court evidence quality  :)
Thats not my point, hence I never raised that.

There are privacy concerns that may make it inadmissible.  And just having one, any lawyer worth his salt would get it thrown out as entrapment.
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #17 on: 30 May 2013, 20:30:21 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 30 May 2013, 20:25:40
Quote from: tunnie on 30 May 2013, 20:21:32
Easily court evidence quality  :)
Thats not my point, hence I never raised that.

There are privacy concerns that may make it inadmissible.  And just having one, any lawyer worth his salt would get it thrown out as entrapment.

Depends entirely on circumstances no? Pulling out of T junction & smashing into side of someone?

I think they would have clear advantage, also growing problem of staged accidents for insurance fraud.

Often its just your say against someone else, especially if no one else is a witness.
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #18 on: 30 May 2013, 20:37:51 »
How on earth could this be considered entrapment  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK9-Ikcu0sY
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #19 on: 30 May 2013, 20:43:35 »
No more than any traffic car.
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #20 on: 30 May 2013, 20:46:41 »
Good example here from Entwood's setup, this proved it was Crash for Cash setup and was used by the police  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NqXGtvI9MQ

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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #21 on: 30 May 2013, 20:53:25 »
If you're interested in one of the cheaper chinese models, there's a bloke called Techmoan that has done loads of useful reviews on a lot of the under £40 ebay dashcams, http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB79814F24001328, although he's still yet to find a 'decent' one.
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« Reply #22 on: 30 May 2013, 20:58:39 »
Could be a bit of an own goal.

Say a spot of over exuberant Bullet driving triggers the camera, then whilst waiting patiently and legally at a traffic light, you get driven into. Video proves you were not a fault,  but equally demonstrates that you were driving like a loon 5 minutes earlier...

Wouldn't fancy my chances tbh :-\
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« Reply #23 on: 30 May 2013, 21:14:15 »
Zacktly. :y............they can be very useful and also very incriminating.If you break speed limits I would suggest its best not to have one. ;)
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #24 on: 30 May 2013, 21:14:58 »
Quote from: Albitz on 30 May 2013, 21:14:15
If you break speed limits I would suggest its best not to have one. ;)

That rules someone fat out  ::)  ;D

I have a 2.2 I can't break the speed limit  :D
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #25 on: 30 May 2013, 21:17:59 »
Going through the later stages of college I worked a CCTV operator at the Oracle in Reading

Not one offence ever caught on camera was thrown out through entrapment I recall, entrapment after all is the mitigating factors that encourage someone to commit an offence in UK law
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #26 on: 30 May 2013, 21:26:05 »
Quote from: ex taxi al on 30 May 2013, 20:58:39
Could be a bit of an own goal.

Say a spot of over exuberant Bullet driving triggers the camera, then whilst waiting patiently and legally at a traffic light, you get driven into. Video proves you were not a fault,  but equally demonstrates that you were driving like a loon 5 minutes earlier...

Wouldn't fancy my chances tbh :-\

That scenario is exactly what happened a couple of years ago. Some guy was selling his beloved motorbike, so he filmed himself on its final ride under his ownership. He was sat stationery at traffic lights when wallop, he was hit from behind. A police car turned up, saw the camcorder, played it back .................... and watched him doing 145mph on a dual carriageway. Whoops.  ::)
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #27 on: 31 May 2013, 07:01:05 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 30 May 2013, 20:25:40
Quote from: tunnie on 30 May 2013, 20:21:32
Easily court evidence quality  :)
Thats not my point, hence I never raised that.

There are privacy concerns that may make it inadmissible.  And just having one, any lawyer worth his salt would get it thrown out as entrapment.

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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #28 on: 31 May 2013, 07:02:05 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 30 May 2013, 20:25:40
Quote from: tunnie on 30 May 2013, 20:21:32
Easily court evidence quality  :)
Thats not my point, hence I never raised that.

There are privacy concerns that may make it inadmissible.  And just having one, any lawyer worth his salt would get it thrown out as entrapment.

So how does the CCTV in our cities, public buildings, homes ect work then
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Re: Dash Cams
« Reply #29 on: 31 May 2013, 08:17:57 »
On private property I believe you must insure that the cameras field of view does not cover adjacant PRIVATE property without permission. But that's to stop peeping toms.

Public areas are fine, fairly sure.

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