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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #30 on: 19 June 2013, 15:35:43 »

Stated many times mine are 164k & 141k :)
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #31 on: 19 June 2013, 15:46:37 »

You need some new boots   ::)


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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #32 on: 19 June 2013, 16:27:00 »

Errrr one up the road is not mine  ::)

Not yous tun - dbdb's ;)
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #33 on: 19 June 2013, 18:54:12 »

Anyway, this rust on one side but not the other...?


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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #34 on: 19 June 2013, 18:55:58 »

Errrr one up the road is not mine  ::)

Not yous tun - dbdb's ;)

D'oh. Sorry mate  :-[  :y
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #35 on: 19 June 2013, 18:58:19 »

Anyway, this rust on one side but not the other...?


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Remove pad every so often and clean up the disc  :-\ quite a quick job really.
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #36 on: 19 June 2013, 19:08:22 »

Rust equals moisture. Once rusted too late.

How to stop the rust?

Suspect of the splash guard is extended to cover the disc to stop the rust, then there might be cooling problems...? (If you accept the short splash guard as the cause of course)
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #37 on: 19 June 2013, 19:09:04 »

Maybe it is the new style roadsalt, it (allegedly) has something in (animal fat? mollasses?) that makes it stick to the road for longer. Unfortunately it also sticks to windscreens, motorcycle helmet visors and (probably) brake disks.
I think that has a lot to do with the general car corrosion, but I don't think explains this scenario  :-\

Again, why not the whole disc? And just the inboard outer edge.


Also, as mentioned earlier, this affects the pads as well, which wear away in the adjacent area. IMO its the rust that swells the metal and takes more pad material away than the non rusty area.
First stage - shiny new metal, new pads. All good :y
Second stage - light rust forms overnight. Gets swept off first application of brakes. No harm done. :)
Third stage - rust forms pits in the surface. Brakes sweep the surface rust off but the pits remain :(
Fourth stage - pits in disk surface cause accelerated wear of brake pad. Wear is uneven and pad edges wear first  :'(
Final stage - parts of the disc that rusted first (eg the edges) are allowed to rust in peace forming the big flakey rust  >:(
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #38 on: 19 June 2013, 19:15:32 »

In the days of asbestos brake pads the discs seemed to last the life of the car.

Since asbestos free brake pads were introduced discs don't seem to last more than two sets of pads. If I get that life out of my disks I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #39 on: 19 June 2013, 22:38:51 »

This was very common on the early fiestas. it does seem to be the ones without the splash sheild that do this. it is very common for certain cars to do this. the wife's galaxy which had discs and pads yesterday was just as bad and no it does not have splash shields either...
Normally it was just fiestas that did this but it has got a lot more common on newer cars.
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #40 on: 19 June 2013, 22:42:23 »

Ok Andy, but why only the inside face?

And why only the outer edge?

Given rust equals moisture. :)
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #41 on: 19 June 2013, 23:23:07 »

More moisture on inner face - outer face has more protection from moisture - protected by wheel/tyre?

Just conjecture ;)
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #42 on: 19 June 2013, 23:27:52 »

More moisture on inner face - outer face has more protection from moisture - protected by wheel/tyre?

Just conjecture ;)

Agreed ;D
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #43 on: 19 June 2013, 23:31:34 »

More moisture on inner face - outer face has more protection from moisture - protected by wheel/tyre?

Just conjecture ;)

Yep pretty much what I said in the 2nd post ;)
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Re: Why do inner discs corrode?
« Reply #44 on: 20 June 2013, 00:20:42 »

I'm not sure why only the edge is affected but on mine the n/s front inner disc has much wider rust band than the o/s so I don't think it can be the shield design. 

Why the surface goes I now understand, once rusts starts if you don't brake hard only the surface will be removed, the rust continues to eat away at the steel and soon the actual steel (excluding the rust) becomes below the surface level of the unrusted surface.  From then on the pad will only touch the unrusted part and the rusted parts will just corrode more and more, with the pads occasionally scraping off some surface rust under heavy braking.

I plan to treat the rust with some rust convertor, at least that should slow down the corrosion and maybe the unrusted level will catch up with it.

My original discs lasted 190K miles.  The replacements fitted by VX started to rust after only a year.

 :o :o :o :o

Must have done mega miles in a short space of time, I thought 6 years and 70k odd at best was impressive  :-[  ;D ;D ;D

Thought your car only had 68K on it? http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=115730.msg1463126#msg1463126

yes but I had one before, my original omega, 1998 had it from new til 2012
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