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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's a fact. In the U.K in 2013 the poorest people in society are also the people who are most likely to be obese, or at least overweight. Why?


Compare this with victorian England, where the wealthy were most prone to being overweight, and many of the poorest in society were skinny and emaciated.......and died at an early age.

Take the U.S. The yanks really know how to produce obese people......The fat people over there put our 'skinny fatties to shame'  ::)But again, as with this country, the majority of overweight people come from the poorest sections of society. Why?

   

[Varche]

I think the answers are quite simple.

Victorian England. The poor had a constant fight to afford any food and had to work for their daily food. By work, I mean gather fuel, do washing by hand, walk to place of work.

Now the "poor" have a wealth of cheap food to eat. Packed with calories and very well advertised. McD burgers, cheesywhatthehellits,coke,supermarket war bread, processed cheese with no cheese in it. You could blame it on marketing. You could blame it on laziness.

I remember our trip to the US. There was a chain called Denny's and they had all you could eat breakfast with everlasting coffee for very very little money. The help yourself as many times as you wanted counter had maybe 50 different trays of food including little touched fresh fruit. Two that stuck in my mind were "grits" and we had to ask what the other was as people were ladling it over their fried eggs, bacon, sausage, mushroom, potato fritters etc. It was hot cheese.!! Whole fat families were there stocking up till their next meal.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I think the answers are quite simple.

Victorian England. The poor had a constant fight to afford any food and had to work for their daily food. By work, I mean gather fuel, do washing by hand, walk to place of work.

Now the "poor" have a wealth of cheap food to eat. Packed with calories and very well advertised. McD burgers, cheesywhatthehellits,coke,supermarket war bread, processed cheese with no cheese in it. You could blame it on marketing. You could blame it on laziness.

I remember our trip to the US. There was a chain called Denny's and they had all you could eat breakfast with everlasting coffee for very very little money. The help yourself as many times as you wanted counter had maybe 50 different trays of food including little touched fresh fruit. Two that stuck in my mind were "grits" and we had to ask what the other was as people were ladling it over their fried eggs, bacon, sausage, mushroom, potato fritters etc. It was hot cheese.!! Whole fat families were there stocking up till their next meal.

Yep, Varche........I think you have it about right.

Rather than an endless supply of cheap processed crap, many victorian children and adults were actually calorie deficient. Probably working fourteen hour days on only 1000-1500 calories a day......then they would walk the 3 or 4 miles back to their unsanitary hovel.

[ronnyd]

Aagh, the good old days

[Varche]

You missed "An lick t road clean wit tongue"

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

You missed "An lick t road clean wit tongue"

Whilst pit owner put 't' boot up his arse.

[chrisgixer]

Wheat. Pure and simple, and cheap...

If its not meat, vegetable or fruit (expensive) then its got wheat in it. (Cheap and fattening)
The wheat lobby is very powerful.



Visit an east European country though and the tables are turned. You just don't see wheat on the menu. The food is... Basic, and very healthy by comparison. There is almost ZERO processed food available. Even at the poshest restaurants. And the people look normal, slim, and healthy as a result.

When we see new staff arrive from Poland they are normal size, (slim to us fat buggers in the uk) they are, Fit, shall we say, there's no fat on them at all. But after 6months the bear bellies and nappy bums start to creap in. After a year they look as Fat as everyone else.

Our diet is crap, and the Wheat lobby are profiting from it. Big time. But then, you knew that, right? 

[chrisgixer]

Not to mention Dairy and sugar.


...and Curry.

[Kevin Wood]

Not to mention Dairy and sugar.


...and Curry.

Nothing wrong with curry.






.. as long as you lose enough weight the next day to offset it.

[symes]

reckon its McD;s cheap meals--see loads of asbo mums taking their kids there at meal times---and sitting playing on xbox etc because they dont work--that makes them fat--skinny people usually work too many hours and dont get chance to rest properly

[Sir Tigger KC]

A lot of it's down to apathy..... Why go to all that effort of going to the shops to buy food when you can get a pizza delivered... 

[symes]

A lot of it's down to apathy..... Why go to all that effort of going to the shops to buy food when you can get a pizza delivered... 

not apathy mate---how many kids these days actually cook---my neice is 25 -got 2 kids and cant cook-----funny she is er well fat big boned and kids too

[Rods2]

Calorie laden fast food, TV meals and too much TV with too little exercise is a major problem for the US and the UK. Most fast and processed food is expensive and bad for you. This is why virtually everything I eat is home cooked. Most cakes and biscuits contain palm oil (normally listed as vegetable oil in ingredients), but is it cheap, adds pleasant flavouring and texturing to keep you coming back for more and it is very, very bad for you and bad for the environment, where there is much jungle clearance (by burning) in countries like Indonesia to produce this as a cash crop. Palm oil contains 41% saturated fat.

Food in Eastern Europe is very basic and wholesome and you see very few fat young people. Old village woman including the mother-in-law is a different story. 

Their food is high in salt, dairy products and fat, so they do have health problems. High blood pressure and heart problems are common by middle age and they have high heart attack rates. Rates of smoking, very heavy drinking, suicides and accidents are high for men, so they have a much lower life expectancy than women. Mother-in-laws next door neighbour drinks a minimum of 1 litre of vodka a day and this is not unusual where alcoholism is a major problem. Mainly men, but there are a percentage of women with alcohol problems along with their problem children.

[omega3000]

All this talk of food , off to get a bargain bucket 

[chrisgixer]

Not to mention Dairy and sugar.


...and Curry.

Nothing wrong with curry.






.. as long as you lose enough weight the next day to offset it.

...Day?