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Oil Cooler?
« on: 04 July 2013, 11:12:23 »
Hi does the 2003 3.2 Elite have a oil cooler? As well my Omega packed up, and i think Oil and Water are mixing :(

Could this be because of anything else? And if so how do i go about finding out what the problem is ?
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #1 on: 04 July 2013, 11:18:18 »
Oil in the Water (lots of it, normally), and no water in oil is good chance its your Oil Cooler.
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2013, 11:42:39 »
Yes it has an oil cooler sits in the middle of the engine, if oil is in the coolant (ie the coolant tank looks like its full of crap) then its oil cooler.

Water in the oil, from the dip stick means Head gasket.

The cooler is stainless steel, has it been run on pure water?
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #3 on: 04 July 2013, 12:22:48 »
Almost certainly oil cooler. :y
It used to be the accepted wisdom that the coolers on later cars shouldn't leak due to being made from stainless steel. Now they are all 10 + years old there seems to be more of them appearing with leaking coolers.
Ive seen quite a few in the last couple of years,and will soon be breaking a 3.2 Elite with a failed oil cooler. Obvious lack of coolant maintenance is always the common denominator.
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #4 on: 04 July 2013, 14:19:14 »
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2013, 18:51:27 »
Almost certainly the cooler,  :y :y mine went and had oil in the water bottle so a nice shade of sh*te brown,  :y also the oil in sump started to go the same way, as I left mine to stand a few weeks till I had the time to change it.  ::) the best thing is not to drive it untill you have done it, and ONLY use a genuine cooler, "O" rings and sealant.  :y also leave it 24 hours before filling with new coolant, Be prepared to do a lot of flushes as it takes forever to clear it.  :(
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2013, 21:03:37 »
Quote from: kevinp58 on 04 July 2013, 18:51:27
Almost certainly the cooler,  :y :y mine went and had oil in the water bottle so a nice shade of sh*te brown,  :y also the oil in sump started to go the same way, as I left mine to stand a few weeks till I had the time to change it.  ::) the best thing is not to drive it untill you have done it, and ONLY use a genuine cooler, "O" rings and sealant.  :y also leave it 24 hours before filling with new coolant, Be prepared to do a lot of flushes as it takes forever to clear it.  :(

Pretty sure no option - believe pattern oil coolers not available ::)
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #7 on: 05 July 2013, 15:57:16 »
Mark did mine in under two hours,  including an oil and filter change. :y

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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #8 on: 05 July 2013, 15:58:18 »
Quote from: kevinp58 on 04 July 2013, 18:51:27
Almost certainly the cooler,  :y :y mine went and had oil in the water bottle so a nice shade of sh*te brown,  :y also the oil in sump started to go the same way, as I left mine to stand a few weeks till I had the time to change it.  ::) the best thing is not to drive it untill you have done it, and ONLY use a genuine cooler, "O" rings and sealant.  :y also leave it 24 hours before filling with new coolant, Be prepared to do a lot of flushes as it takes forever to clear it. :(



sometimes even longer than that. ;D ;D
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #9 on: 05 July 2013, 16:18:29 »
Quote from: Mr. Opti on 05 July 2013, 15:58:18
Quote from: kevinp58 on 04 July 2013, 18:51:27
Almost certainly the cooler,  :y :y mine went and had oil in the water bottle so a nice shade of sh*te brown,  :y also the oil in sump started to go the same way, as I left mine to stand a few weeks till I had the time to change it.  ::) the best thing is not to drive it untill you have done it, and ONLY use a genuine cooler, "O" rings and sealant.  :y also leave it 24 hours before filling with new coolant, Be prepared to do a lot of flushes as it takes forever to clear it. :(

sometimes even longer than that. ;D ;D

Yep, takes ages and lots of flushing, best to add flushing agent then warm up engine to normal temp then leave overnight, next morning (Engine Cold) hose pipe in the Coolant Tank Bottle and Rad Tap out and kept flushing, occasionally reving to 2/3k to warm Engine but not too hot!. Repeat over night as needed.

Ive tried all sorts of flushing agents, best in my opinion is Industrial Oven Cleaner, the modern stuff is designed not to damage metals, rubber etc and can be found at your Local (hic) Pub for Beers Tokens.  :y
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #10 on: 08 July 2013, 11:15:56 »
OK thanks a lot guys for your replies :D

Yup its the Oil Cooler, as theres no "Mayo" on the dipstick :)

Does anyone know where i can get a replacement kit and how much it will cost?
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #11 on: 08 July 2013, 12:42:26 »
Vauxhall dealer. Around £150 iirc. Or if your budget is tight you could take a gamble on a used one at around £25.
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #12 on: 08 July 2013, 15:05:22 »
£150 doesnt sound too bad, but I called Vauxhalls and they said £180 :(
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #13 on: 08 July 2013, 15:31:13 »
Quote from: Ninda on 08 July 2013, 15:05:22
£150 doesnt sound too bad, but I called Vauxhalls and they said £180 :(

Have you spoken to andyc aka Andy at Drive Bury St Edmunds
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Re: Oil Cooler?
« Reply #14 on: 08 July 2013, 15:37:26 »
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