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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #30 on: 09 July 2013, 22:03:02 »

If it was mine, I'd get the new correct roller and sort it all out in one go.

If I was advising someone else or working on someone else's car, I wouldn't start the engine until it was sorted. Tbh.
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #31 on: 09 July 2013, 23:34:14 »

So, you've got an idler bearing that's already probably done 80K re-fitted for another 40k.

Sorry - I know it's a lot of work, but I'd take the kit back with the broken idler and get it replaced, then refit the lot bearing in mind the points made. If you don't, you'll be wondering when it's going to lunch the engine for the next 40k miles.
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #32 on: 10 July 2013, 08:48:06 »

Well I've no choice for the moment Kevin, I'll see if contitech will send me the replacement. I'll be in the UK in a couple of weeks so maybe I can pick up just the roller from the Vauxhall dealer. Hopefully it will be listed as a separate part.

I've just retimed the car this morning following the advice received re eccentric pulley, so will leave this till I return after the summer.
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #33 on: 11 September 2013, 21:23:16 »

OK so I'm back in France after summer in the UK and time to resolve my timing issue. So to recap the idler roller bearing sheared when it was torqued up and I had to replace the old roller. I had no joy with getting buypartsby.com to send me a replacement contitech roller they wanted the whole kit back so I don't recommend that company >:(.

So I have sourced a new roller which is adjustable whereas the original one was not. I've done this as I found it impossible to get the timing spot on and tickover is not as smooth as it was, although in all other aspects it is perfect. :)

I followed the dvd but did struggle with getting it spot on, anyone offer any advice before I start again?

Thanks
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #34 on: 11 September 2013, 21:34:35 »

3.2 has one adjustable roller and one tensioner :y

The following is how RobseyMV6 very kindly sorted mine after I completely screwed it up ::)

Start at the crank, wedge and cam locks in place, over idler, up to cam4, then cam3, then under adjuster to cam2. if you can rotate the adjustable roller around its bolt, the you need to move the belt a tooth or so to the left on cam2 until the adjuster is fairly tight, then over cam1 and around the tensioner, then follow the dvd for setting the adjuster and tensioners :y
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #35 on: 11 September 2013, 21:57:47 »

thanks
I can make sense of that too! Probably have a go monday and post back the results
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #36 on: 13 September 2013, 12:35:10 »

Ok back to work I've disassembled and I can see that the timing is out by a tooth on bank 2 it is retarded, I've the locking tools all in, any advice on how to move bank 3 forward while keeping bank 4 where it is??

I presume I've to remove the belt somehow lock bank 4, remove the locking tool from 3 and 4 then move 3 a gnats whicker without it jumping past or back? Anyone done this before?
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #37 on: 13 September 2013, 12:47:16 »

Fit the locking tool in bank 1-2.

Remove the belt and turn the crank back 60 degrees to the safe point, set the 3-4 bank cams to the correct position and fit the locking tool, turn the crank with the locking tool fitted back to TDC.

Re-fit belt and continue.
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #38 on: 13 September 2013, 13:20:34 »

Fit the locking tool in bank 1-2.

Remove the belt and turn the crank back 60 degrees to the safe point, set the 3-4 bank cams to the correct position and fit the locking tool, turn the crank with the locking tool fitted back to TDC.

Re-fit belt and continue.

This is much easier with a third hand to fit the lock whilst you hold the cams in place!
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #39 on: 13 September 2013, 13:27:57 »

thanks for the tip, it went easily I used a rigid star wrench and just eased it a tad then cam lock back in and crank back to tdc, now on with the rest fingers crossed!
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #40 on: 13 September 2013, 16:19:31 »

All done, thanks to everyone for your help, car running nice and smoothly. So I'll put the timing tool kit on ebay as I'm hoping not to do this job again, having done it three times!!!
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Re: late V6 3.2 timing adjustment, help urgent
« Reply #41 on: 13 September 2013, 22:02:39 »

All done, thanks to everyone for your help, car running nice and smoothly. So I'll put the timing tool kit on ebay as I'm hoping not to do this job again, having done it three times!!!

;D which kit is it Tony?
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