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[petes]

Hi, I have tyre wear on the outside of my front tyres, this has been an on going problem 4 sets of tyres!. I have the tracking done several times but I still have the same problem. Can anyone come up the solution to this problem.

[Andy B]

Hi, I have tyre wear on the outside of my front tyres, this has been an on going problem 4 sets of tyres!. I have the tracking done several times but I still have the same problem. Can anyone come up the solution to this problem.

you need a full 4 wheel geometry check done 

[Webby the Bear]

wear on either shoulder (singly) is incorrect toe angle. if theyre work on both shoulders it could be under inflation.

[Andy B]

wear on either shoulder (singly) is incorrect toe angle.....

or camber angle 

[Webby the Bear]

wear on either shoulder (singly) is incorrect toe angle.....

or camber angle 

what he said 

am I right in thinking that camber on a lot of cars isn't adjustable?

[Andy B]

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am I right in thinking that camber on a lot of cars isn't adjustable?

Correct. Though there is some adjustment at the front of an Omega. 

[Webby the Bear]

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am I right in thinking that camber on a lot of cars isn't adjustable?

Correct. Though there is some adjustment at the front of an Omega. 

nice one andy. is there a how to in the maint. guides on that? or do you need the laser equipment? I know setting toe can be done with that mirror set up... used it once or twice 

[Andy B]

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nice one andy. is there a how to in the maint. guides on that? or do you need the laser equipment? I know setting toe can be done with that mirror set up... used it once or twice 

There are DIY camber angle gauges about, but they're just best guess. When tyr3s are £100+ per corner, it's cheaper in the long run to take it somewhere proper for wheel alignment.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Toe angle does not generaly cause significant edge wear

[dbdb]

Oh goody another tyre thread

Agreed sounds like the camber is out. 

Wear on outside edge is unusual, normally the inside edge goes because the mig is correctly set with negative camber.  Positive camber must give you horrible handling . 

National Tyres insisted to me the camber is not adjustable on the mig I told them it was and how to do it and they consulted their own manual which wasn't clear.  Of course it is, you just need to go to a decent place (doesn't have to be WIM but could be )

If it's tracking at fault (which seems unlikely) you should see some distinctive feathering of the edges.

[Webby the Bear]

Toe angle does not generaly cause significant edge wear

Well that's what I thought. If you think about the camber angle (just look at an F1 car for exaggerated camber at the front) anyone would guess that depending on whether it was positive or negative you would see inner or outer wear.

but my copy book definitely says toe 

[dbdb]

Toe angle does not generaly cause significant edge wear

Well that's what I thought. If you think about the camber angle (just look at an F1 car for exaggerated camber at the front) anyone would guess that depending on whether it was positive or negative you would see inner or outer wear.

but my copy book definitely says toe 

Could be toe/tracking:



I thought unlikely because the tracking has been set a few times but depends who did it I suppose. 

[Webby the Bear]

so that diagram is showing that outside wear is due to the toe angle?  im all confused now.

[Shackeng]

Hi, I have tyre wear on the outside of my front tyres, this has been an on going problem 4 sets of tyres!. I have the tracking done several times but I still have the same problem. Can anyone come up the solution to this problem.

As above, full geo check rqd. Where was the tracking done? And what facilities did they have?

[Agemo]

Yes, it could be either Toe, or Camber. You can check and adjust both yourself, but if you take it somewhere, make sure they know that the Camber can be adjusted, or they will just check Tracking & say it's fine!