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Another new toy
« on: 18 August 2013, 10:39:36 »

Thanks to the generosity of my brother (and his unnerving need to upgrade on a regular basis), I am now the proud owner of a Qnap TS-509 Pro that is fitted with 2GB of DDR II RAM and 5x 2TB drives (8GB storage with redundancy for 1 drive).

Current estimated time to transfer all my data from the old to the new is 17 hours, think I'll go make a cup of tea while it does it's thing  ;D

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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #1 on: 18 August 2013, 10:52:52 »

You can never have enough storage (although on your puppy, I'd only end up with 4Tb, for performance reasons). I find the problem is backing it up, esp as I can't afford the latest and greatest tape drives, so stuck with a first gen LTO.

As I'm under 600Gb of data that I *must* be able to recover (photos, docs, source code etc etc), I can just squeeze it in to a weeks worth of backups.

How I long for LTO4 or later to be able to do it all nightly.  //TB goes off and rattles piggy bank, before sulking ;D
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #2 on: 18 August 2013, 11:01:04 »

You can never have enough storage (although on your puppy, I'd only end up with 4Tb, for performance reasons). I find the problem is backing it up, esp as I can't afford the latest and greatest tape drives, so stuck with a first gen LTO.

Same problem here.
I could drop the array down to 6GB in order to have a 2 drive redundancy, but none of my data is really what you could call "mission critical".
My brother upgraded to the TS-1079 Pro and fitted it with 10x 2TB drives in a RAID 6 config which results in 16TB of storage with a 2 drive redundancy as he had already filled the old one to capacity.

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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #3 on: 18 August 2013, 11:10:08 »

If you're going to use language like this, you need to change your name back to Martian. :(
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #4 on: 18 August 2013, 11:12:32 »

You can never have enough storage (although on your puppy, I'd only end up with 4Tb, for performance reasons). I find the problem is backing it up, esp as I can't afford the latest and greatest tape drives, so stuck with a first gen LTO.

Same problem here.
I could drop the array down to 6GB in order to have a 2 drive redundancy, but none of my data is really what you could call "mission critical".
My brother upgraded to the TS-1079 Pro and fitted it with 10x 2TB drives in a RAID 6 config which results in 16TB of storage with a 2 drive redundancy as he had already filled the old one to capacity.
I'd be happy with just 1 drive redundancy, but I need mirroring for write speed on my disk subsystem, as some VMs are very intensive on writes, and RAID5 is quite poor (and my controller is too old for ADG/R6)
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #5 on: 18 August 2013, 12:38:10 »

I'd be happy with just 1 drive redundancy, but I need mirroring for write speed on my disk subsystem, as some VMs are very intensive on writes, and RAID5 is quite poor (and my controller is too old for ADG/R6)
The Infrant can do a 0+1 array which would give you a 4x read and 2x write speed gain with at least 1 drive redundancy, albeit at this point you would drop to 1.5TB with the disks that are currently fitted.

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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #6 on: 18 August 2013, 13:30:11 »

   Who else knows what these two are talking about ??? ??? ???
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #7 on: 18 August 2013, 13:36:03 »

   Who else knows what these two are talking about ??? ??? ???
Keith B

Not me  :-[ :-[   I do know that a computer has a screen & a keyboard though ;D ;D ;D

Oh yes . . .  & plugs in the wall  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #8 on: 18 August 2013, 14:33:28 »

   Who else knows what these two are talking about ??? ??? ???
Keith B

Me ;) (Another QNap owner - one TS-859Pro w/ 8 x 2TB drives in RAID6 and one TS-869Pro w/ 8 x 3TB drives in RAID6)  :-[
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #9 on: 18 August 2013, 15:00:45 »

   Who else knows what these two are talking about ??? ??? ???
Keith B

RAID is "Redundant Array of Independent Discs". This system is used for two reasons, redundancy so you can recover data WHEN a hard disc fails and to also increase read and write speeds. Personally I'm surprised that with RAID 1 built into PCs that most people with any critical data (this includes digital photos) aren't at least running RAID1. I run RAID1 on my servers and when I next upgrade my PCs I will be running it on those as well. I like all important stuff to be backed up on several systems as well as a backup HD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #10 on: 18 August 2013, 15:24:42 »

ive got the raid ts1907pqs powered by 3 aaa duracells and its never let me down and ive never lost a thing  :y
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #11 on: 18 August 2013, 15:29:48 »

Me ;) (Another QNap owner - one TS-859Pro w/ 8 x 2TB drives in RAID6 and one TS-869Pro w/ 8 x 3TB drives in RAID6)  :-[
Almost 31 TB of storage  :y :y

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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #12 on: 18 August 2013, 16:25:14 »

How I long for LTO4 or later to be able to do it all nightly.  //TB goes off and rattles piggy bank, before sulking ;D

I wish you'd mentioned that before I changed jobs!  ::)
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #13 on: 18 August 2013, 18:48:06 »

I find the problem is backing it up, esp as I can't afford the latest and greatest tape drives, so stuck with a first gen LTO.

Make sure you keep your backups someone distant from your originals.  Like your car boot or even garden shed ;D ;D ;D

You then may also need to encrypt them in case of theft.
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Re: Another new toy
« Reply #14 on: 18 August 2013, 18:51:38 »

Me ;) (Another QNap owner - one TS-859Pro w/ 8 x 2TB drives in RAID6 and one TS-869Pro w/ 8 x 3TB drives in RAID6)  :-[
Almost 31 TB of storage  :y :y
That seems quite a lot even to me with 8TB :o.  I assume it is for HD TV?   Even so I get 800 full length films on 2TB  so 31TB?
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