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COOLER CHANGE OUT
« on: 26 August 2013, 13:37:04 »

hi, my 2000 catera, has been in the shop for the last two week, the auto shop guy can not seem to work  out how to attach the two hole's without them poping off due to oil pressure.  the old oil cooler was take out and the after marked cooler was attacted to the raditor, to which the two holes run to where the oil cooler was removed.  this is the area that the holes keep poping off.  anyone have any idea???
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #1 on: 26 August 2013, 14:02:43 »

Sorry, must be a London thing, Ive read your post 3 times now and still cant work out what your saying?, are talking about the Oil Cooler that sits inside the V on the V6?

 
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #2 on: 26 August 2013, 14:03:34 »

Oh, and welcome to OOF  ;)
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #3 on: 26 August 2013, 14:38:02 »

Just guessing - it makes more sense if you read 'hoses' instead of 'hole's' (maybe he has Apple autocorrect :-\)
hi, my 2000 catera, has been in the shop for the last two week, the auto shop guy can not seem to work  out how to attach the two hole's hoses without them popping off due to oil pressure.  the old oil cooler was take out and the after marked market cooler was attacted attached to the radiator, to which the two holes hoses run to where the oil cooler was removed.  this is the area that the holes keep popping off.  anyone have any idea???
Firstly - I can't see the point of changing the factory fit oil cooler, but that's another discussion....
Second - The original oil cooler doesn't have(need?) a thermostat because the cooler is sat in water at a temperature controlled by the main thermostat. An aftermarket air cooled oil cooler will need a thermostat. This thermostat needs to bypass the oil cooler when the oil is cold otherwise no oil will get to the bearings and the engine will be trashed in seconds. (It will also generate a high pressure in the oil hoses)
Thirdly - I have no confidence in your auto shop guy. He either doesn't know what he is doing or has made a basic mistake in the pipe connections to the oil cooler thermostat.
Fourth - The oil will be hot and at high pressure. Rubber hose and hose clips isn't going to cut it. He should be using Aeroquip (or similar) steel braided hoses with swaged couplings.
Good Luck. I think you need it.
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #4 on: 26 August 2013, 15:08:18 »

Welcome to OOF mate  :y

As others said no point in changing existing oil cooler (that sits in "V") for an aftermarket one.
Why are you going down that route?
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« Reply #5 on: 26 August 2013, 15:18:00 »

hi and thanks for your for  inforation on the oil cooler.  As for the change out of the cooler i got the information in the seach maintenance guides for oil cooler change out and i e-mail the information to the shop.  yet, it would seem that the best way to go is with the original type oil cooler and to do the work myself.  i have not called the shop yet it is 10:08 am here i Boston now.  by 10:15 am i will call and ask for my money and car back and perhaps take it to the dealer. or do it myself how hard can it be, its just a matter of taking your time and following the information which is very clear on how to do it.

oh, my anti-freeze looks like mud

thanks for all your help.   (sorry for the spelling no autocorrect or spell check  :'()
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« Reply #6 on: 26 August 2013, 15:27:05 »

HI Dbug

The information that i got in the maintenance guide stated that this was one way to go.  although i do not have the printout of the post here at work.  and as no other post refluent it i decided to go that way.  now i know better.
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« Reply #7 on: 26 August 2013, 15:35:02 »

Sorry Zirk

it is the oil cooler in the V.  i read that one could put in an after market oil cooler (which looks like a baby radiator) in between the anti freeze radiator and the transmission radiator and since no one rejected this i was sure that this was the way to go.

 no spell check here 
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #8 on: 26 August 2013, 16:11:18 »

hi and thanks for your for  inforation on the oil cooler.  As for the change out of the cooler i got the information in the seach maintenance guides for oil cooler change out and i e-mail the information to the shop.  yet, it would seem that the best way to go is with the original type oil cooler and to do the work myself.  i have not called the shop yet it is 10:08 am here i Boston now.  by 10:15 am i will call and ask for my money and car back and perhaps take it to the dealer. or do it myself how hard can it be, its just a matter of taking your time and following the information which is very clear on how to do it.

oh, my anti-freeze looks like mud

thanks for all your help.   (sorry for the spelling no autocorrect or spell check  :'()

Howto in maint guide to replace oil cooler - biggest problem is cleaning out cooling system - takes a lot of flushing through.  Replacing the cooler itself not a difficult job. ;)
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #9 on: 26 August 2013, 16:14:30 »

hi and thanks for your for  inforation on the oil cooler.  As for the change out of the cooler i got the information in the seach maintenance guides for oil cooler change out and i e-mail the information to the shop.  yet, it would seem that the best way to go is with the original type oil cooler and to do the work myself.  i have not called the shop yet it is 10:08 am here i Boston now.  by 10:15 am i will call and ask for my money and car back and perhaps take it to the dealer. or do it myself how hard can it be, its just a matter of taking your time and following the information which is very clear on how to do it.

oh, my anti-freeze looks like mud

thanks for all your help.   (sorry for the spelling no autocorrect or spell check  :'()

Howto in maint guide to replace oil cooler - biggest problem is cleaning out cooling system - takes a lot of flushing through.  Replacing the cooler itself not a difficult job. ;)

Howto here - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90596.0

Parts required here - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90588.0

HTH :y
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« Reply #10 on: 26 August 2013, 16:48:07 »

 :)
Thanks DBUG

the shop said that the car is done and working well.   :-[ ( Here is what that said about the job.  it would seem that the person who put in the anti freeze Radiator must have cut the hose and bent up the after market cooler, which is the reason why it was leaking oil!!  So  being the i put the radiator without touching the oil hose or put any bends in the oil cooler.  now unknown to him is that i put the radiator and i did not put a bend or cut the hose, i was also working in the fround of the car and the oil i coming out towards the middle of the car.  when your shop starts to lie to you its time to move on.
Ps i did not tell him i put the radiator in>

thanks the the information on the oil Cooler Replaceent HOW2

THANKS
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Re: COOLER CHANGE OUT
« Reply #11 on: 26 August 2013, 16:55:14 »

Hiya welcome to the OOF :y
 Good luck with your oil cooler replacememt :o
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« Reply #12 on: 26 August 2013, 16:58:27 »

Hi Deryll
Can you post up some photographs of the installation and keep us informed of how well it works please?


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« Reply #13 on: 26 August 2013, 17:05:51 »

hi & welcome :y
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« Reply #14 on: 26 August 2013, 18:55:08 »

HI ANDY H

I will and as of right now i am leaving work early to have a good talk with these folks about deliberately lying about the work which i did myself, to which they have no idea that i did it.

i shall post the pictures
thanks for the concern
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