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[chrisgixer]

Will this welder...


...fry these electrics?


I don't fancy their chances, but then, what do I know about either subject.


There are 3 other similar 4 gangs and the shed electrics running off the same fused socket. (Wince)

[chrisgixer]

Oh, and 3 fluorescent lights, and the loft eaves light run off it as well.

[Andy B]

If your welder has a 13A plug on it then you should be OK to plug it into a normal 13A socket ...... providing you're not on an extension on an extension etc 

[chrisgixer]

If your welder has a 13A plug on it then you should be OK to plug it into a normal 13A socket ...... providing you're not on an extension on an extension etc 

How about just on one extension.

[Vamps]

There is only one way to find out........

[chrisgixer]

There is only one way to find out........

Oi, this isn't the TB schools garaging (if that's even a word)

[Andy B]

If your welder has a 13A plug on it then you should be OK to plug it into a normal 13A socket ...... providing you're not on an extension on an extension etc 

How about just on one extension.

Only if it's a decent sized cable & fully unwound from the drum 

[AndyRoid]

Whatever happens you are limited to 13A in the switch fuse, but that welder really needs it's own socket if you want it to be able to work at full efficiency.

What size is that incoming cable to the switch fuse, and is it a radial or spurred off a ring?

[chrisgixer]

Cable is big. No idea, guess its a spur, there's only one "in"cable, there's no return.

[AndyRoid]

Cable is big. No idea, guess its a spur, there's only one "in"cable, there's no return.

What size breaker is protecting that circuit?

[chrisgixer]

Cable is big. No idea, guess its a spur, there's only one "in"cable, there's no return.

What size breaker is protecting that circuit?

Can't tell without pulling each breaker, which I could do...? Which is the most likely? I don't want to reset every electrical device in the house if I can avoid it.

Its an old consumer unit with fuses. (5 amp is replaced with a breaker)

[bigegg]

Buy a pack of 13A fuses.
Unplug anything else that you can.
Wait til daylight
have at it.
If you don't blow any fuses, check all the plugs/cables to see if any are dangerously hot.

Then you're good to go.

I run a 200A stick welder over a 50ft extension into a shed - really should be a 16A supply.
If I run at full power, and the rod sticks, I blow the fuse if I have the stereo running as well.
There's two fluorescents running on the same circuit.

If I use the bandsaw, angle grinder, or drill press, I switch the welder off - I work alone, so only use one tool at once any way.

[AndyRoid]

Can't tell without pulling each breaker, which I could do...? Which is the most likely? I don't want to reset every electrical device in the house if I can avoid it.

Its an old consumer unit with fuses. (5 amp is replaced with a breaker)

If the incoming cable is 2.5mm˛ then I would expect to find it on a 20A breaker, and if it is 1.5mm˛ then that breaker cannot be any more than 10A.

If it is the case that the incoming feed is 2.5mm˛, then I would replace the switch fuse with a double (or triple) socket.
If it's 1.5mm˛, you'll pop the breaker (assuming the correct size breaker is fitted for the cable).

I've just recovered from this weeks chemo session, so I'm quite happy to pop over and see it in the flesh to ensure your garage doesn't go the same way as Jaime's 

[chrisgixer]

That's a very kind offer, thankyou, but you've got way more important things to worry about. Recovery etc.

So if I check that cable, and its 2.5mil(?) I could just fit a 3 gang socket?

[AndyRoid]

That's a very kind offer, thankyou, but you've got way more important things to worry about. Recovery etc.

So if I check that cable, and its 2.5mil(?) I could just fit a 3 gang socket?

Yes, but please make sure that the appropriate size breaker is fitted as well (20A for 2.5mm˛ radial).

Just out of curiosity, where does that bit of T&E (Twin & Earth) come from that is lashed in to that 4 gang trailer?