Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: [1] 2 3  All   Go Down

Author Topic: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but  (Read 4422 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

MaxV6

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Oxford UK
  • Posts: 2484
  • Give me 6 cylinders and i'm happy.
    • 2.2SportPremium Jag est
    • View Profile
    • Work related forums....

are there any brands that are considered "okay if you must and money is tight" ?


for example.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D3400-DRIVE-FAN-BELT-TENSIONER-KIT-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-3-2-V6-EST-01-04-/370872070806?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega%7CCars+Type%3A3.2+V6&hash=item5659b2b296


i'm just looking to get the Mv6 fully sorted for the short term.....

so i've spotted cam belt kits,  aux drive belt and tensioner kits...   


amongst other things....   

one thing i won't skimp on is the crank sensor.....   that story i know too well.....     

but money is very very tight.....       so..... 
Logged
If I haven't broken it yet, I soon will.
"The 4th Rule of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light.

Mr.OmegaMan

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Middle of nowhere
  • Posts: 4176
    • 3.2 Elite , CLS500
    • View Profile
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #1 on: 28 September 2013, 22:26:54 »

I believe Gates is a recommended brand and made them for GM  :-\
Logged

kevinp58

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • kent
  • Posts: 1462
    • 2002 3.2 elite
    • View Profile
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #2 on: 28 September 2013, 22:39:03 »

Yup gates are one that makes for the original as are contitech buypartsby.co.uk are very good for value  :y
Logged

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37573
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #3 on: 28 September 2013, 22:41:03 »

Yup, thats good.

Genuine parts, are generally just gaskets and sensors now  :y
Logged

chrisgixer

  • Guest
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #4 on: 28 September 2013, 22:52:56 »

Gates are an oe supplier for cam belts. :y
Logged

MaxV6

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Oxford UK
  • Posts: 2484
  • Give me 6 cylinders and i'm happy.
    • 2.2SportPremium Jag est
    • View Profile
    • Work related forums....
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #5 on: 29 September 2013, 00:56:54 »

Any other brands that are considered "okay" ???
Logged
If I haven't broken it yet, I soon will.
"The 4th Rule of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light.

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36417
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #6 on: 29 September 2013, 01:01:20 »

Depends what you are buying, TBH.

Cam belt kits - SKF, Gates and Contitech are for all intents identical to OEM.

Aux belts - whatever the local factors sell.

Aux belt tensioner - try re-greasing the old one if it's not too far gone.
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

chrisgixer

  • Guest
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #7 on: 29 September 2013, 01:12:28 »

Any other brands that are considered "okay" ???
Ok? No not just ok. Oe suppliers are what you want. Ie, the manufacturers that supply Gm/Vx. So your then getting oe parts but cheaper than dealer prices. Some are cheaper from the dealer on tc, like plugs and oil. Others just swallow the bill and pay dealer prices, like hbv's and cam cover gaskets.

So you need to be clear what parts are needed. Cam belt kits, as said, Gates, conti, skf all supplied GM.
Wishbones and bushes where supplied by lemforder.
Shocks and springs where boge I think?
Coil pacs bosch.

Etc... See? :)
Logged

MaxV6

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Oxford UK
  • Posts: 2484
  • Give me 6 cylinders and i'm happy.
    • 2.2SportPremium Jag est
    • View Profile
    • Work related forums....
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #8 on: 29 September 2013, 02:45:29 »

okay,  so an SKF cam belt kit is okay?


jobs...


Drive belt,  and tensioner,  cam belt, water pump,  crank sensor, possibly secondary O2 sensor...    I've already done the HBV

that will do for now.... 


I'm prepared to buy the lot at TC via Andy,   but,  although he does his best,  if i can save 25% on certain items,  then i need to.....   we have  another house move in the offing,  and i've just had to replace my laptop for work purposes after it had an accident,  .....  (and hi spec mac book pro's are not cheap and do not grow on trees)  so spare money simply does not exist.


i'd quite like to be able to feed the wife and kids this month.





Logged
If I haven't broken it yet, I soon will.
"The 4th Rule of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light.

albitz

  • Guest
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #9 on: 29 September 2013, 08:19:37 »

Afaik,Andy is no longer supplying TC/discount parts to OOFers. ;)
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107027
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #10 on: 29 September 2013, 09:00:03 »

SKF don't make belts, and Gates and Contitech don't make bearings. So you are after kits with Gates or Conti belts AND SKF bearings, if that makes sense?

Now egay is universally full of scum, so I'd be wary buying *anything* important from there. There is an awful lot of fake stuff from there, and a lot of stuff that is advertised only bearing half of the truth.

I generally use Conti kits (for cambelts) from buypartsby, approx £80.


AndyC is unable to do TC any more  :'(, I'm fairly convinced that TC will be wound up soon.
Logged
Grumpy old man

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36417
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #11 on: 29 September 2013, 09:28:06 »

SKF do make SKF branded cam belt kits. They contain SKF bearings (as the OE ones do) and gates belts, from memory, so they are fine.

Has the water pump actually failed? I'd leave it be if not. There have been some poor quality pattern and OEM parts around recently, so I wouldn't replace one unless it failed personally.

What has gone wrong with the aux belt tensioner? If it's just the pulley bearing, then prise the dust covers off and re-grease it, otherwise get a genuine replacement wheel on TC (not the whole assembly!). If the sprung tensioner bracket assembly has gone, get a second hand one.

Crank sensor - genuine on TC.

O2 sensor. If post-cat, not worth messing about unless you get the bosses moved behind the main cats. Then get 2nd hand or cheap pattern generic sensor and mod the wiring.
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

chrisgixer

  • Guest
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #12 on: 29 September 2013, 11:35:36 »

Re water pump, slacken off the aux belt tensioner with a long handled 15mm socket and check the water pump by spinning it, check for any play and any roughness in the baring.

Then only buy one if needed, but you'll probably find its ok. Mine was fine at 102,000miles as a guide.
Logged

MaxV6

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Oxford UK
  • Posts: 2484
  • Give me 6 cylinders and i'm happy.
    • 2.2SportPremium Jag est
    • View Profile
    • Work related forums....
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #13 on: 29 September 2013, 11:36:08 »

O2 sensor,  the sensors are already moved, did that 2-3 years ago... 

can;t recall if water pump was done at same time as last cam belt, so figured i'd best get it changed as a matter of course....   as i'm getting the cam belt done...  (although not due for another 4k,  so it COULD wait....   but if there's work going on in there, might as well be thorough.... 

,  right, so, an SKF camblet kit,  that gates drive belt kit, 


i've been using eGay to find decent prices,  but then i usually contact seller direct if they're a "reputable supplier" they nearly always have an external system ... 

Logged
If I haven't broken it yet, I soon will.
"The 4th Rule of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light.

MaxV6

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Oxford UK
  • Posts: 2484
  • Give me 6 cylinders and i'm happy.
    • 2.2SportPremium Jag est
    • View Profile
    • Work related forums....
Re: okay. so i know pattern parts are generally not recommended... but
« Reply #14 on: 29 September 2013, 11:40:25 »

i'd add that the belt tensioner ,  might or might not be knackered....    but the belt rattles in a bearing-y sort of way....   and slips(screams )  when you put load on via alternator....  and this is a one shot fix session.....    so...  don't want to stick a belt on,  then find the tensioner needs doing..,    i want it to go in sick, and come out fixed, with no question marks.


AND with windscreen wipers attached... 

Logged
If I haven't broken it yet, I soon will.
"The 4th Rule of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light.
Pages: [1] 2 3  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.014 seconds with 16 queries.