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[tunnie]

You're not worried at all, are you Tunnie? 

Nope 

GrandmaT has lived 1/2 mile away from this house for about 30+ years, I know it well. 

[MR MISTER]

If you come on the forum and ask a question such as yours, you just know what will happen.

[tunnie]

If you come on the forum and ask a question such as yours, you just know what will happen.

 

Never knew much about these, so thought ask.

It's all a bit dooms day on here these days 

I'm happy, can see how it's being used. Shows all the drain pipes leading from various sources, all clear and well done.

As it's a private road, everything now makes sense. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Might be a communual system especially as the road is probably unadopted... ie the residents pay to maintain the roads/ verges/ greens / lighting etc rather than the council double check if neither the solictor, vendor or estate agents mention it

It is 

There is a management company for the close, fee paid once a year. That goes into as you say general maintenance, this tank is listed. It's underneath next doors back garden too, the too gardens back onto each other.

My solicitor brought it to my attention, tempted to ring Estate Agents tomorrow. The vendor is a switched on chap, he is a director of the "maintenance company" so he should know about it.

The fact that the close is unadopted is not necessarily a good thing in my opinion.....    What's to stop the maintenance company from jacking their charges up every year? 

Why is the vendor selling?    If he's the director of the maintenance company, maybe they're not doing a great job and the neighbours are not happy with him....    I'd go and wander around one evening and see if you can have a quiet chat with some of the neighbours. 

Are there any plans in the pipeline to get the close adopted by the council? Private roads and shared drives/access can be a complete nightmare... 

[MR MISTER]

Here we go.

[tunnie]

What's to stop the maintenance company from jacking their charges up every year? 

Me. (+others) The company is made up of the property owners on the close.

Why is the vendor selling? 

The stairs, they are an elderly retired couple, they find them a struggle.

Are there any plans in the pipeline to get the close adopted by the council? Private roads and shared drives/access can be a complete nightmare... 

No shared drive, it's a standard close with garage/driveways.

I can see lots of benefits, it's in the contract that bins cannot be left out too long, hedges/noise must be kept under control. No need to go through council for things like that, again changes have to go through management company which I will be a member.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Sorry didn't spot your earlier post. 

So do you buy shares in the company as part of the deal? 

[Broomies Mate]

I think, if it's anything like my parents, by paying the management 'fee' you automatically enrol!

Works perfectly for them (my parents) and I hope it works well for Tunnie.

[tunnie]

Sorry didn't spot your earlier post. 

So do you buy shares in the company as part of the deal? 

I don't think so, I'm a share of the free hold in my current place. But as the house is freehold, I don't think I get any shares of this company, just become a member.

by paying the management 'fee' you automatically enrol!

Yes, that's how I read it. You pay it, you get a say by being a member.

Personally I like it, reading through it's really aimed at making the close a nice place. Things like parking on grass verge, of which is small in the close, is not allowed.

Also means if anyone wants to change/extend their house looks like it needs to go through management company too so get more of a say. That said nothing is overlooking, can't see how any of the houses could extend in a bad way.

There are only 9 plots in the close, so quite a compact little close.

[Broomies Mate]

Sorry didn't spot your earlier post. 

So do you buy shares in the company as part of the deal? 

I don't think so, I'm a share of the free hold in my current place. But as the house is freehold, I don't think I get any shares of this company, just become a member.

by paying the management 'fee' you automatically enrol!

Yes, that's how I read it. You pay it, you get a say by being a member.

Personally I like it, reading through it's really aimed at making the close a nice place. Things like parking on grass verge, of which is small in the close, is not allowed.

Also means if anyone wants to change/extend their house looks like it needs to go through management company too so get more of a say. That said nothing is overlooking, can't see how any of the houses could extend in a bad way.

There are only 9 plots in the close, so quite a compact little close.

It's not in my Parents Cul-De-Sac is it? 

Exactly the same there.  One of the houses with a large garden gained planning permission for a single story dwelling on their land with permission from the 'management company' on the merit it would be owned by their daughter for a period of 10 years.  I'm guessing a few hundred quid between the residents is small change compared to having their quiet 'community' descended upon by money grabbing people with a few quid and a JCB!

[05omegav6]

All is well provided the developer is not a shareholder

Our 1960's estate of 50 houses is unadopted. We, the residents, have maintained the grounds/roads since day one, but the developer technically still owns both makes the annual meetings a bit complicated...

[Sir Tigger KC]

OK so who actually owns the company? and what's to stop the owners (who might be nice and benign) selling out to a big nasty corporate? 

What is the structure of the company and as a 'Member' do you get any power? or do you just get to voice your opinion? 

[tunnie]

What is the structure of the company and as a 'Member' do you get any power? or do you just get to voice your opinion? 

Going to be finding that out, as current owner is retired I think he became a director due to spare time.

All is well provided the developer is not a shareholder

Going to be finding that out, current place you are quite involved. We even got to pick the colour of the carpets when they were re-done, more recently on the style of new windows in common areas. 

It's not in my Parents Cul-De-Sac is it? 

One of the houses with a large garden gained planning permission for a single story dwelling on their land with permission from the 'management company' on the merit it would be owned by their daughter for a period of 10 years. 

Don't think so, no one in the close has made any changes. 

[05omegav6]

It is something that varies from place to place

Worst case scenario, the developer sets up/appoints a third party management company. These can and often do dramatically increase charges to pay for grounds maintenance/communual property upkeep etc. Often found in apartment blocks with communual lifts/heating etc.

Generally a committee, with a clear set of guidelines in place will suffice. No one committee member has an executive vote, they serve simply to arrange the day to day responsibilities on behalf of the residents. Ours is an association, with a treasurer, a secretary and chairman, along with a further five people on the committee. The annual subscription is voluntary, but expected and is currently £50 per household per year, and covers the public liability insurance for the roads and footpaths, upkeep of two large greens and clearing the drains a couple of times a year. Where the roads have needed repair, every household is expected to contribute an equal amount. Not all do contribute, or participate for that matter, but by and large it is an amicable place to be

[Varche]

Lets look at this another way then.

The drainage isn't so good (even though it isn't a flood plain).

A large tank is built underground and leaks water away.

Q. What happens if the ground is saturated from weeks of rain and the tank is full and the ground cannot take anymore water?
Q. Who designed the size of the tank and what rainfall parameters was it designed to?

I only ask this because in Spain extremes of rainfall are very common and the power is amazing.

I still don't like the idea. I would be slightly happier if the tank was on someone elses (lower than mine) land.

Here is a weblink to show the product http://www.carlowprecast.com/civil-stormwater-attenuation.aspx