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Re: brakes
« Reply #30 on: 14 October 2013, 21:40:24 »

4x Omega's - 300k+ miles covered. Number of rear discs replaced = 0
Well whoop di doo...
Mine is on its third set of rear discs in 255k, so go figure...

Sorry, fourth set. Plod put a set on it at about 75k :y

Think some people need to read road ahead better  :o

That's appalling wear rate for rear discs

Not really... TC applies rear brakes too ;)
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« Reply #31 on: 14 October 2013, 21:45:59 »

4x Omega's - 300k+ miles covered. Number of rear discs replaced = 0
Well whoop di doo...
Mine is on its third set of rear discs in 255k, so go figure...

Sorry, fourth set. Plod put a set on it at about 75k :y

Think some people need to read road ahead better  :o

That's appalling wear rate for rear discs

Not really... TC applies rear brakes too ;)
Most apparent on snow 8)

It is also an estate, it works for a living so is often loaded, and I actually enjoy driving it :y
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Re: brakes
« Reply #32 on: 14 October 2013, 22:01:03 »

4x Omega's - 300k+ miles covered. Number of rear discs replaced = 0
Well whoop di doo...
Mine is on its third set of rear discs in 255k, so go figure...

Sorry, fourth set. Plod put a set on it at about 75k :y

Think some people need to read road ahead better  :o

That's appalling wear rate for rear discs
I make that about 85k per set. Thats not bad. Not everyone has easy motorway runs. Also remember that V6 traction control does give the rear brakes a good thumping.

Once they are at the minimum thickness, you do really need to change them. The brake designers (the wear limits are likely to come from the initial disc supplier, based on their expertise and calculations) don't just specify it for fun. Its not just heat dissipation, its the structural strength of the disc.  A failed brake disc is quite spectacular, and you won't get prior warning.

You could argue that tyres still have plenty of tread at 1.6mm, but the laws are there for a reason :P
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Re: brakes
« Reply #33 on: 14 October 2013, 22:09:00 »

4x Omega's - 300k+ miles covered. Number of rear discs replaced = 0
Well whoop di doo...
Mine is on its third set of rear discs in 255k, so go figure...

Sorry, fourth set. Plod put a set on it at about 75k :y

Think some people need to read road ahead better  :o

That's appalling wear rate for rear discs
I make that about 85k per set. Thats not bad.

Might want to check your maths there, 4 sets over 255k is about 64k.

Still think that's very poor, the 3.0 estate is on its original rear discs at 110k.
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Re: brakes
« Reply #34 on: 14 October 2013, 22:13:47 »

rear brakes

1mm is ok in my book. That's a tiny lip, worn but still good. How are the pads?
::) Ahem... I know you'd reuse your screenwash if you could find a way to collect it, but that is potentially dangerous advice :-\

1mm on each face = 2mm = minimum thickness = change them :y

Should be able to get rear discs for £30-35 each :y

Irrespective of mileage achieved from discs/pads I agree with Al.  To recommend continuing to use discs at their minimum (or less than minimum) thickness is bad and dangerous advice.  To the op - if rear discs at minimum thickness, replace - they wont get thicker with use ::)  For rear brakes pattern discs/pads generally ok, but for front use genuine Vx discs and pads (around £100 the set on TC) ;)

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« Reply #35 on: 14 October 2013, 22:16:55 »

Obviously doesn't do anything...

Besides not all the brake parts that I have replaced have always been genuine, so life expectancy is price related :y
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Re: brakes
« Reply #36 on: 14 October 2013, 22:20:13 »

4x Omega's - 300k+ miles covered. Number of rear discs replaced = 0
Well whoop di doo...
Mine is on its third set of rear discs in 255k, so go figure...

Sorry, fourth set. Plod put a set on it at about 75k :y

Think some people need to read road ahead better  :o

That's appalling wear rate for rear discs
I make that about 85k per set. Thats not bad.

Might want to check your maths there, 4 sets over 255k is about 64k.

Still think that's very poor, the 3.0 estate is on its original rear discs at 110k.
Ah, yeah, but ETA uses some shit stuff ;D.  The old bill changed at 75k, presumably with GM again. so if the first 2 sets lasted 175k, then the pattern shit he slapped on 40k each?
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Re: brakes
« Reply #37 on: 14 October 2013, 22:23:12 »

4x Omega's - 300k+ miles covered. Number of rear discs replaced = 0
Well whoop di doo...
Mine is on its third set of rear discs in 255k, so go figure...

Sorry, fourth set. Plod put a set on it at about 75k :y

Think some people need to read road ahead better  :o

That's appalling wear rate for rear discs
I make that about 85k per set. Thats not bad.

Might want to check your maths there, 4 sets over 255k is about 64k.

Still think that's very poor, the 3.0 estate is on its original rear discs at 110k.
Traction control (with 4 channel ABS) on my F/L 2.6 uses the rear brakes. Traction control on my PFL 2.5 (with only 3 channel ABS) didn't/couldn't.

I changed the discs on my 2.5 after about 170K to sort the parking brake (not because of disc thickness). On my 2.6 I fitted new disks soon after I bought it at about 130K and the disks are just about worn out now at 180K.

64K seems reasonable for a F/L. 100K plus seems reasonable for a PFL
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Re: brakes
« Reply #38 on: 14 October 2013, 22:24:22 »

75k is much better than 40k..

So as a police pursuit car, used very heavily genuine last 75k? Fair to assume in civilian use 100k+ is easily done. :)
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« Reply #39 on: 14 October 2013, 22:24:46 »

Current set is TC all round, fitted at 238k in March :y

Fronts were all but one set were TC, pads anything available on a Saturday lunch time, mostly Apec ::)

Discs generally changed every other pad change. Front discs are sixth set iirc :y
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« Reply #40 on: 14 October 2013, 22:30:44 »

75k is much better than 40k..

So as a police pursuit car, used very heavily genuine last 75k? Fair to assume in civilian use 100k+ is easily archived. :)
Nope Collision Investigation, lightly used 97k in 4.5 years ::) Not so lightly used 162k in 4.5 years.

Traffic cars do a set of tyres every 3k, brake discs barely last 20k, and are often defected due to warping...
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Re: brakes
« Reply #41 on: 14 October 2013, 22:31:45 »

75k is much better than 40k..

So as a police pursuit car, used very heavily genuine last 75k? Fair to assume in civilian use 100k+ is easily done. :)
I think mine took a hammering trying to drive in snow last winter (I turned out of my drive, went 100 yards slightly downhill then took 4 hours to get it back to the house, I didn't dare leave it unnattended at the bottom of a dip on a slight bend :()
If the police car had LSD then the traction control wouldn't have needed to kick in to prevent 1 wheel spinning up so might not be a fair comparison.
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Re: brakes
« Reply #42 on: 14 October 2013, 22:33:07 »

75k is much better than 40k..

So as a police pursuit car, used very heavily genuine last 75k? Fair to assume in civilian use 100k+ is easily archived. :)
Nope Collision Investigation, lightly used 97k in 4.5 years ::) Not so lightly used 162k in 4.5 years.

Traffic cars do a set of tyres every 3k, brake discs barely last 20k, and are often defected due to warping...

3k? TB must be moon lighting as undercover plod  ;D
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Re: brakes
« Reply #43 on: 14 October 2013, 22:34:32 »

Gen rear discs are £88 inc vat on trade club, pads arnt showing but are around £15 istr. If I can help with parts let me know.  I'm in the trade so get discount at euro car parts ect if you want to go non genuine. Let Me know and I'll see what I can do.
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« Reply #44 on: 14 October 2013, 22:35:40 »

75k is much better than 40k..

So as a police pursuit car, used very heavily genuine last 75k? Fair to assume in civilian use 100k+ is easily done. :)
I think mine took a hammering trying to drive in snow last winter (I turned out of my drive, went 100 yards slightly downhill then took 4 hours to get it back to the house, I didn't dare leave it unnattended at the bottom of a dip on a slight bend :()
If the police car had LSD then the traction control wouldn't have needed to kick in to prevent 1 wheel spinning up so might not be a fair comparison.
It does 8), the two actually work well together, the diff puts the torque on the road, and the TC keeps it straight. Still gets a workout attempting to tame the laws of physics though...
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