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Re: Desperate
« Reply #15 on: 02 November 2013, 21:54:48 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #16 on: 02 November 2013, 21:57:35 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?


...Tight.... can it be too tight? :-[
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« Reply #17 on: 02 November 2013, 22:00:16 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?


...Tight.... can it be to tight? :-[
Yes, but we're concerned with them being loose.

How tight, in nm,(of ft lbs) are the bolts?
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #18 on: 02 November 2013, 22:03:20 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?


...Tight.... can it be to tight? :-[
Yes, but we're concerned with them being loose.

How tight, in nm,(of ft lbs) are the bolts?

Nah..., no nm data there believe me....raw force, eemmm, could it be thread worn out?
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #19 on: 02 November 2013, 22:04:39 »

I mean, there was no damage on bolts AFAIK but when 1,7 ton is pressing it, who knows?
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« Reply #20 on: 02 November 2013, 22:11:13 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?


...Tight.... can it be to tight? :-[
Yes, but we're concerned with them being loose.

How tight, in nm,(of ft lbs) are the bolts?

Nah..., no nm data there believe me....raw force, eemmm, could it be thread worn out?
Ok, if over tight the area around the subframe holes could be damaged, if not tight enough the bolts won't hold the correct position, in either event the wishbones could be moving around.
Is the car stable under breaking? Does the steering wheel twist in your hands?

For info/are you aware, assuming no poly bushes, the bolts need to be tightened to 125nm then angle tightened 35 degrees, then a further 15degrees WITH THE WHEELS LOADED/car at the correct ride height.
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« Reply #21 on: 02 November 2013, 22:12:08 »

There are other causes, but given the work done lets start there.
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« Reply #22 on: 02 November 2013, 22:13:49 »

And which wishbones where fitted?
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #23 on: 02 November 2013, 22:14:41 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?


...Tight.... can it be to tight? :-[
Yes, but we're concerned with them being loose.

How tight, in nm,(of ft lbs) are the bolts?

Nah..., no nm data there believe me....raw force, eemmm, could it be thread worn out?
Ok, if over tight the area around the subframe holes could be damaged, if not tight enough the bolts won't hold the correct position, in either event the wishbones could be moving around.
Is the car stable under breaking? Does the steering wheel twist in your hands?

For info/are you aware, assuming no poly bushes, the bolts need to be tightened to 125nm then angle tightened 35 degrees, then a further 15degrees WITH THE WHEELS LOADED/car at the correct ride height.


Sooo...there comes first mistake of mine, omega was up when working on it.... no retighting when down
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« Reply #24 on: 02 November 2013, 22:19:06 »

How tight are the wishbone bolts?


...Tight.... can it be to tight? :-[
Yes, but we're concerned with them being loose.

How tight, in nm,(of ft lbs) are the bolts?

Nah..., no nm data there believe me....raw force, eemmm, could it be thread worn out?
Ok, if over tight the area around the subframe holes could be damaged, if not tight enough the bolts won't hold the correct position, in either event the wishbones could be moving around.
Is the car stable under breaking? Does the steering wheel twist in your hands?

For info/are you aware, assuming no poly bushes, the bolts need to be tightened to 125nm then angle tightened 35 degrees, then a further 15degrees WITH THE WHEELS LOADED/car at the correct ride height.


Sooo...there comes first mistake of mine, omega was up when working on it.... no retighting when down

If that's the case the front bushes could very well be torn already. Lemforder bushes will take it for a short time, but any rubber bush will tear eventually.

Or, just fit poly bushes. Powerflex.
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #25 on: 02 November 2013, 22:20:00 »

They all tear eventually, bit you know what I mean. Life is reduced to a few months at best.
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« Reply #26 on: 02 November 2013, 22:20:13 »

And car is stable under braking, I hear and feel banging when driving over small bumps...it just never stops. Just for info - there was no play/banging a day or two after replacing lower suspension arms, before it reappeared
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #27 on: 02 November 2013, 22:21:43 »

So it means they could be torn allready :(
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« Reply #28 on: 02 November 2013, 22:23:10 »

And car is stable under braking, I hear and feel banging when driving over small bumps...it just never stops. Just for info - there was no play/banging a day or two after replacing lower suspension arms, before it reappeared
Sounds like either;
1 the bolts have come loose
2 the bushes have torn. This wouldn't normally cause knocking on quality bushes though. But cheap ones might.

Where the drop links undone to fit the wishbones, and where they done up again to 60nm?
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Re: Desperate
« Reply #29 on: 02 November 2013, 22:29:39 »

The drop links weren't undone
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