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chrisgixer

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Life scan/body scan check ups
« on: 20 November 2013, 22:09:19 »

Pros and cons?

We (well she mostly) continually hear of so and so getting cancer, this person died of a brain hemorhhage, that person died of ...whatever. Let's not go into all that too much on a Friday. ;)

But, as title, is there anything to gain by a full body scan to try and pre empt any nasties...?

Browsing the web suggests it can potentially be more trouble than its worth, as suspicious images call for testing and possibly invasive testing that could lead to further complication such infections etc... Only to find there's nout wrong anyway,

On the other hand, if a nasty is caught early, obviously that's beneficial.

Any experience, thoughts, suggestions? (Not from you Esta ;D )

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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #1 on: 20 November 2013, 22:31:58 »

Not sure it is worth the money unless you have a family history for particular problems.

If the scanner is an x-ray scanner then this radiation dose will increase your risk of cancer.

Somebody I know died recently of bowel cancer, where he missed the NHS poo on a stick at 60 test as he was moving house at the time and it was sent to his old address. Having this test may have prolonged his life. Mass NHS testing is normally done on a cost effective basis where it is cheaper to pay for the test and catch something early than the cost of the treatment later on, so this may not be the best age to maximise lifespan.

I'm a great believer that you are what you eat and drink. This along with keeping fit can increase your lifespan. Fitness amongst the middle aged and old has increased along with the age we live to. My great uncle was fitter at 80 than most people at 50 and was still doing hard physical work and lived until he was 98.

We all know that on average smoking, heavy drinking, obesity, a sedate lifestyle and a poor diet is going to decrease our lifespans and quality of live in our later years. It is up to individuals to make the choices that suit them and live with the consequences. I guess the same also applies to preventive medicine.
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #2 on: 20 November 2013, 22:38:54 »

I think that these private screening clinics play on peoples fears re health. Best thing is to go to your doctor
if you have symptoms that you are unsure  of.
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« Reply #3 on: 20 November 2013, 23:03:48 »

I think that these private screening clinics play on peoples fears re health. Best thing is to go to your doctor
if you have symptoms that you are unsure  of.
That reminds me ronnyd... :y

The problem I have is unexplained aches and pains. Twinges and odd sensations come and go and are unexplained. I put these down to skeletal problems and aggravated nerves, or whatever.
 What concerns me is something more serious could arise, and I dismiss it along with all the other historical symptoms that amounted to nothing in the past. ...well, nothing serious anyway. (Fingers crossed)
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« Reply #4 on: 20 November 2013, 23:06:33 »

Rods there is no family history of serious issues. :)
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #5 on: 20 November 2013, 23:59:33 »

I think that these private screening clinics play on peoples fears re health. Best thing is to go to your doctor
if you have symptoms that you are unsure  of.
That reminds me ronnyd... :y

The problem I have is unexplained aches and pains. Twinges and odd sensations come and go and are unexplained. I put these down to skeletal problems and aggravated nerves, or whatever.
 What concerns me is something more serious could arise, and I dismiss it along with all the other historical symptoms that amounted to nothing in the past. ...well, nothing serious anyway. (Fingers crossed)

They're growing pains!  ::) ::)

If I went to the docs with every ache & pain I ever get I'd live at the docs surgery! It's a symptom of getting old!  ???
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #6 on: 21 November 2013, 07:23:18 »

Any experience, thoughts, suggestions? (Not from you Esta ;D )

If you're male and over 40, get that camera stuffed up your jacksey at least once a year!

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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #7 on: 21 November 2013, 07:35:08 »

Any experience, thoughts, suggestions? (Not from you Esta ;D )

If you're male and over 40, get that camera stuffed up your jacksey at least once a year!
That's what I was gonna say, except it wasn't a camera ;D
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #8 on: 21 November 2013, 08:27:25 »

There is a huge medical ethics issue on these lifespan scans.  As Rods2 said, they dose the entire body unnecessarily with radiation on the premise that they will find anything that is wrong with you.  Scans cannot diagnose every illness or even every type of cancer.  They play on people fears and need for  peace of mind but people who go through this scan can also fall in to a false sense of security.

Because every dose increases your chances of getting cancer, normally, a body area is only doses with radiation with good reason, eg pain, swelling, etc.  The irony being that people who are afraid they may have cancer actually increase they susceptibility by having a scan which in all likeliness will increase their chances of developing it.

Better to find a good GP, change GPs if you have to (I did twice when finding my diagnosis), and go through things that way.  A good one will check for all the obvious things they can think of and then realise when it is more than they can deal with and send you to the relevant specialist.  A good GP also keeps up to date with current trends and thinking in the medical world but there is little to guage this latter element with GPs....I have my own thoughts on it but my medical friends find my proposals a little draconian. ::)
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #9 on: 21 November 2013, 08:44:26 »

Any experience, thoughts, suggestions? (Not from you Esta ;D )

If you're male and over 40, get that camera stuffed up your jacksey at least once a year!
That's what I was gonna say, except it wasn't a camera ;D

Look Esta, we all know your obsessed, at least try not to make it so obvious ;D
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« Reply #10 on: 21 November 2013, 08:47:53 »

There is a huge medical ethics issue on these lifespan scans.  As Rods2 said, they dose the entire body unnecessarily with radiation on the premise that they will find anything that is wrong with you.  Scans cannot diagnose every illness or even every type of cancer.  They play on people fears and need for  peace of mind but people who go through this scan can also fall in to a false sense of security.

Because every dose increases your chances of getting cancer, normally, a body area is only doses with radiation with good reason, eg pain, swelling, etc.  The irony being that people who are afraid they may have cancer actually increase they susceptibility by having a scan which in all likeliness will increase their chances of developing it.

Better to find a good GP, change GPs if you have to (I did twice when finding my diagnosis), and go through things that way.  A good one will check for all the obvious things they can think of and then realise when it is more than they can deal with and send you to the relevant specialist.  A good GP also keeps up to date with current trends and thinking in the medical world but there is little to guage this latter element with GPs....I have my own thoughts on it but my medical friends find my proposals a little draconian. ::)

Yes I know what you mean. Gp's are infuriating at times and the good ones are always booked up for weeks.

Must admit I thought the scans where all based on Magnetic technology. :(
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #11 on: 21 November 2013, 09:25:29 »

Must admit I thought the scans where all based on Magnetic technology. :(

LifeScan use CT Scanners which hit you with a dose of radiation 200 times greater than an X-Ray.
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #12 on: 21 November 2013, 09:40:49 »



The problem I have is unexplained aches and pains. Twinges and odd sensations come and go and are unexplained. I put these down to skeletal problems and aggravated nerves, or whatever.
 What concerns me is something more serious could arise, and I dismiss it along with all the other historical symptoms that amounted to nothing in the past. ...well, nothing serious anyway. (Fingers crossed)
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I would say (or this is what my doc said when i went to him with back and shoulder pain) Its because I wear steel toecaps safety boots all day and apart from 30 minute lunch break i dont sit down for 9 hours a days. He said it is the weight of the boots and the shock wave going up my back. Iam now looking at buying some good composite boots.  I dont know if you have the same problem chris but just thought I would mention it.
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #13 on: 21 November 2013, 09:54:23 »

I think that these private screening clinics play on peoples fears re health. Best thing is to go to your doctor
if you have symptoms that you are unsure  of.


many cancer types, wont give any symptoms before its too late..
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Re: Life scan/body scan check ups
« Reply #14 on: 21 November 2013, 09:55:46 »

I think that these private screening clinics play on peoples fears re health. Best thing is to go to your doctor
if you have symptoms that you are unsure  of.

Agreed. :y

But.. Another way to think about it - if we're talking cancer, at any rate. Not many of the common cancers are slow to develop. I have precious little medical knowledge (next to none, in fact), but, from friends and loved ones who have succumbed to various cancers that have been caught late and treated late, they've lasted perhaps a year to 18 months at the most from initial symptoms (which may not have been attributed to cancer at the time). Obviously, with early detection and treatment the outlook is very much better.

Now, I don't have the medical experience to know at what stage in that process a "Lifescan" would have pickled up anything and how it would have changed the outcome, but it suggests to me that a one-off scan is pointless, as, putting it bluntly, you could still be dead in 18 months. Not really much peace of mind. Now, if it could economically be done every 6 months, and without the side-effects of scans adding to the risk, my observations suggest you might be getting somewhere, but that's not realistic.

Again, no medical expertise here at all, but it strikes me that a scan performed in response to a symptom would be more effective than one done whilst otherwise healthy in any case. In the former case, the consultant will already have an inkling what he's looking for, and will investigate anything he sees on a scan along those lines. In the latter, do you do a biopsy on every shadow you find anywhere in the body? Completely different thing, IMHO.

Do you strip your car down every 6 months just in case it's about to raise a fault code, or do you wait for the code and then immediately look in the area the code points to?

It seems to me that the best course of action is to look after yourself, take note of any symptoms, and have a doctor in whom you have the confidence to refer you if anything suspicious emerges.

With pretty much any other life-threatening disease, there will be signs that can more easily be picked up IMHO. Get your blood pressure, sugar levels, cholesterol, liver and kidney function, etc. checked on a regular basis and you won't go far wrong. Luckily, I have a local surgery who do all that and with whom I'm confident, although my GP has just retired and I'm yet to see his replacement.

Frankly, I think, if you're worrying, it might be because you don't have confidence in your GP when he says you're healthy?
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