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HGVs 'Overtaking'
« on: 22 November 2013, 18:13:27 »

I'm a regular user of the A50 between the M6 and the M1. It's  a dual carriageway with plenty of long straight bits and few roundabouts.  When you get to the other side of Stoke it is rarely congested and you can really 'make rapid progress' especially late at night.

...........Except that is when one HGV tries to overtake another. It is not uncommon to get stuck behind one that takes up to 2 miles to inch past the one on the inside lane. Meanwhile a huge line of frustrated car and van drivers builds up behind it. Why do HGVs bother going for an overtake?  At the tiny speed differentials between speed limited HGVs, going for an overtake makes no difference to their journey time. Is it to irritate all other road users?

I'm the angry one standing on my horn as I pass the selfish so and so when he finally pulls back into the inside lane. Just so he knows what I think of his driving.
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #1 on: 22 November 2013, 18:26:21 »

Yes! They bloody do!

Nout else to do at 56mph.
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #2 on: 22 November 2013, 18:41:01 »

When I was a Lorryist, I used to back off a bit when another truck pulled out, to avoid that painfully long overtake and let them get past quickly.  :) 

Not many truck drivers do that though and are happy to cruise along while the other 'millimetres' past....  :-\
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #3 on: 22 November 2013, 18:50:08 »

It causes mayhem on the m4 of an evening. There on the horizon, two lorries side by side. ... pulls in, and miraculously the M4 becomes relatively clear.

Hacks me right off tbh.
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #4 on: 22 November 2013, 19:48:44 »

Was driving an underpowered 7.5t puddle jumper yesterday... came off a dual carriageway roundabout slogging through the gearbox... 31,32,33,34mph etc, with a couple of artics in front. In the outside lane a Zafira flew past accelerating hard, practically being pushed by another artic.

As it blasted past me I saw why...it was one of theses...
http://www.volvotrucks.com/SiteCollectionImages/VTC/Market/Trucks/Volvo-FH-16-750/Gallery/1024x768_750_1_highres.jpg 8)

Of course being the EU, as soon as he reached the lead truck he hit his limiter ;D which coincidentally was at about the same time the lead truck hit his ::) a brief traffic jam later...

By the time I reached the next roundabout half a mile later, said Volvo was already out of sight on the next stretch :o

I reckon the 0-56 time of one of those is probably quick enough to worry Tunnies Desmond ::)
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #5 on: 22 November 2013, 19:51:32 »

Saw one of those but the 620s I think, parked outside Kingston Rail bridge. Bet without any load if would shift. That said, that one did have a huge crane behind the back of the cab!
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #6 on: 22 November 2013, 19:57:59 »

Gotta love an FH750  8)
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« Reply #7 on: 22 November 2013, 20:00:53 »

Gotta love an FH750  8)

£140k is alot of love though... ::)
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #8 on: 22 November 2013, 20:04:48 »

Try driving East from Rochdale on the M62. Four lanes, three of which have HGVs doing from 56.1 through to 56.2 all attempting an overtake when they've not a snow ball's chance in hell overtaking any of them by the time they get to 'The Little House on the Prairie' which leaves just one lane left for us plebs in cars. Amongst them you'll get a trilby hat wearing old bloke that's not been in the outside lane ever and has never been faster than 60 mph ....... so that sets the speed for every other bugger behind him. It's about time someone in government, grew a set & banned HGV's from various outer lanes ie 3 & 4 of a 4 lane motorway at peak times and at motorway junctions .... like they do Europe.
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #9 on: 22 November 2013, 20:09:34 »

Yeah I'd go with that, see it in Euroland and works well
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #10 on: 22 November 2013, 20:12:36 »

That wouldn't affect the price of goods much ::)

Better solution would be to level the playing field, tell Bruscles to sod off, and remove the limiters, with a minimum motorwazy limit of 50mph and raise the max to 80mph for everyone :y

Oh and allow undertaking...

That should wake everyone up ;D
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #11 on: 22 November 2013, 20:16:33 »

As with everything else in life, you can't lump all HGV drivers into a single category. Most are professional and safe, others are.........not.
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #12 on: 22 November 2013, 20:18:36 »

Another trait of our 'Kings of the Highway' that pi$$es me right off is when they pull out in front of me at the foot of an umpteen mile long hill because they reckon the car & caravan won't be any faster up the hill than they will! Some cars & caravans can maintain 60(+) up & down dale all day long!!!!!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #13 on: 22 November 2013, 20:20:04 »

As can some trucks to be fair :-\
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Re: HGVs 'Overtaking'
« Reply #14 on: 22 November 2013, 20:21:21 »

As with everything else in life, you can't lump all HGV drivers into a single category. Most are professional and safe, others are.........not.

lots though, drive under the rules of  ........ Might has Right!
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