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Re: Another financial farce
« Reply #15 on: 28 November 2013, 13:21:59 »

When I left school in 1976 only 4% of people went on to university. This meant that almost everyone  who attended walked straight into a well paid job after leaving.

Today some 40% and more go on to university......devaluing the system, and leaving many graduates with huge debt as they flip burgers in McDonalds. :-\
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Nail on head. :y
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Re: Another financial farce
« Reply #16 on: 28 November 2013, 14:14:12 »

So what we get is the xact opposite of what you suggest - those studying serious courses repay the money, whereas the "fluff" courses students never have to.  >:(

Exactly.  :y
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Re: Another financial farce
« Reply #17 on: 28 November 2013, 18:49:05 »

When I left school in 1976 only 4% of people went on to university. This meant that almost everyone  who attended walked straight into a well paid job after leaving.

Today some 40% and more go on to university......devaluing the system, and leaving many graduates with huge debt as they flip burgers in McDonalds. :-\
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.. and if they never progress beyond flipping burgers, it's OUR debt. >:(

You could say that, BUT... that money goes to OUR universities. Our teachers. OUR pubs  ::)
so is returned to the economy where (hopefully) it is used to increase the general wealth of the nation.

I find it quite <....> when people (newspapers!) talk about the government *wasting* money or spending *our* money - especially when it's "wasted" or "spent" in the UK.
It's being used to pay *our* wages, provide profits for *our* businesses, educate and employ *our* children.
You hear about the £50,000 toilet seat (or whatever it was) - but, as long as it was a british company who was selling them it, I can't see the problem - it's just *our* taxes being returned to circulation.


I can honestly say that I'd never spend more than £10,000 on a bog seat...... ::) ::) ;D ;D

It is true what you have been saying them, times are really hard, with economies like this.  ::) :o :D :P ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #18 on: 28 November 2013, 18:56:16 »

It should not be rocket science that if you are going to run up debts improving your knowledge and skills to make sure they are in demand when you have finished.

On of the most in demand skills and real shortages in the UK at the moment if for good computer programmers, so how have schools and universities responded to this by the number of British citizens who take computer science degrees? They are consistently falling. :( Too much like hard work for the X-factor generation to take hard degrees much easier to take sports management, leisure and tourism or journalism degrees to at the end of them get £6 odd per hour job flipping burgers.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #19 on: 28 November 2013, 19:16:44 »

car painters earn more money than computer programmers here..  ;D :D

let me say ,good shops earn my salary within a week  ;D ;D


and needless to say many programmers are jobless let alone new graduates.. new graduates may sell tomato and potato as a starters ;D
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« Reply #20 on: 28 November 2013, 19:22:41 »

Here good experience programmers working in the South East of the country earn 1.5 to 2 times average salaries. Freelance programmers working in London can earn £250 to £500 per day.
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« Reply #21 on: 28 November 2013, 19:51:50 »

Here good experience programmers working in the South East of the country earn 1.5 to 2 times average salaries. Freelance programmers working in London can earn £250 to £500 per day.

some years ago say 15 , it was like heaven for programmers.. I was working for a private company travelling like mad and salaires were very good but it was impossible to maintain when you get older so I changed my job, later was working for a bank where salaries were better with extras..

but things have changed drastically .. many private banks, companies go bankrupt.. some changed hands.. some sold to foriegn companies..

day by day the working market are filled by new graduates who was ready to accept even minimum salaries..  later another crisis hit and everthing collapsed..  I ended up working for govt treasury.. not bad not good but not enough.. so I started making other projects outside ..  etc etc..

but nowadays programming job is not desirable anymore..
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