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LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« on: 15 December 2013, 10:12:45 »

Has anybody got a view on these things to make LPG injector install easier?





http://www.autogas-lpg.co.uk/65--quick-fit-gas-feed

This chap over on Retrorides has fitted them to his E55 Merc. The system isn't up and running as of today but he's moving pretty fast with it so worth seeing it progress.

http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/155617/1997-mercedes-e55-estate-fit?page=3

The only question raised so far is what effect it has raising the petrol injector by ~7mm have?


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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #1 on: 15 December 2013, 10:22:20 »

I was sent some when I did one of mine, but after looking at them, "we" decided not to use them, and drill the manifold, so both petrol injector and the LPG flow are in optimal positions.
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #2 on: 15 December 2013, 10:43:27 »

Humm, interesting. Certainly saves drilling and tapping injectors in, also very close to the petrol injection.

Be good to find out how he gets on  :y
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #3 on: 15 December 2013, 10:48:57 »

Humm, interesting. Certainly saves drilling and tapping injectors in, also very close to the petrol injection.

Be good to find out how he gets on  :y
Believe they are designed for low cost commercial LPG fitters to be able to bodge get the job done in a day, and now that in situ drilling is a frequent question, they can honestly answer no.

I does lift the petrol injector quite a bit, which is why I didn't fit them.

(Note to Lazydocker - was I supposed to send them back? Too late now, obviously, they melted ;D)
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #4 on: 15 December 2013, 11:28:07 »

I think it was a case of them not fitting under the V6 plenum. Due to the design, you can't space the fuel rail away from the manifold to fit them in, as the angle of the injectors is then wrong, and the plenum won't fit.

On an engine where they'll fit (I reckon most 4 pots with a bit of room around the fuel rail) they are a good idea, IMHO.
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #5 on: 15 December 2013, 14:24:52 »

Yes no good in a v engine, as the petrol injectors are also in a v. Raise the height and you have to space the injector rails out further.

But on an inline engine, and there's space, go for it. :)


Lpg installers won't want to take the plenum off on an omega, much less take the inlet out as well. ::)
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #6 on: 15 December 2013, 16:03:33 »

I think it was a case of them not fitting under the V6 plenum. Due to the design, you can't space the fuel rail away from the manifold to fit them in, as the angle of the injectors is then wrong, and the plenum won't fit.

On an engine where they'll fit (I reckon most 4 pots with a bit of room around the fuel rail) they are a good idea, IMHO.

+1  :)
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #7 on: 16 December 2013, 12:23:18 »

I'm hoping to convert mine to lpg but am still contemplating whether to go diy or to get it done quickly by one of the trusted pro's from the lpg forum.
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #8 on: 16 December 2013, 13:05:41 »

I'm hoping to convert mine to lpg but am still contemplating whether to go diy or to get it done quickly by one of the trusted pro's from the lpg forum.

Which forum is that, what kind of prices have they quoted?
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #9 on: 16 December 2013, 17:26:34 »

I've not had a quote but theres a guy called tubbs over on the lpg discussion forum. He's not that far from me and seems well respected. I dont think he's cheap but I think he tries to stay competitive.

I've had a quote of 995+vat from profess autogas but I'm not overly keen on the 1 day install. I've heard good things and bad about them.

I reckon its gonna cost 600ish quid for a stag kit fitted by me plus the hassle/complexity of finding somebody reliable, diy friendly and localish to certify it for me. I'd rather go diy still if possible as I'm that way inclined.
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #10 on: 18 December 2013, 21:28:52 »

Tubbs is very good. Converted mine 25k ago. He provides very good support if anything goes wrong.
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #11 on: 19 December 2013, 15:54:31 »

Humm, interesting. Certainly saves drilling and tapping injectors in, also very close to the petrol injection.

Be good to find out how he gets on  :y
Believe they are designed for low cost commercial LPG fitters to be able to bodge get the job done in a day, and now that in situ drilling is a frequent question, they can honestly answer no.

I does lift the petrol injector quite a bit, which is why I didn't fit them.

(Note to Lazydocker - was I supposed to send them back? Too late now, obviously, they melted ;D)

Probably :-X Never mind ::)
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #12 on: 19 December 2013, 15:57:43 »

I've not had a quote but theres a guy called tubbs over on the lpg discussion forum. He's not that far from me and seems well respected. I dont think he's cheap but I think he tries to stay competitive.

I've had a quote of 995+vat from profess autogas but I'm not overly keen on the 1 day install. I've heard good things and bad about them.

I reckon its gonna cost 600ish quid for a stag kit fitted by me plus the hassle/complexity of finding somebody reliable, diy friendly and localish to certify it for me. I'd rather go diy still if possible as I'm that way inclined.

He's the only one from there I would recommend ;) In fact, IIRC I recommended him to D :-\ He'll want the car for a week though because he does it properly ;)

I actually have even more respect for him as a fitter as he knew I'd done several ( :-X ) Omega's so called and we had a good old chat for hints and tips :y
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #13 on: 22 December 2013, 18:39:29 »

Another 250 miles and another full tank of petrol.....  ::)

I think paying somebody £1200+ to convert the old tank isn't financially sensible but doing it myself for £600 seems reasonable. I like the reviews of Tinley Tech and their kits.  Anybody here used their kits?

They also offer a service to do the paperwork once its completed but they're a long way from Derby. Its not reached the top of the priority list yet though, 'er indoors wants the house sorted first!
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Re: LPG Injector Adapters (no manifold drilling required)
« Reply #14 on: 22 December 2013, 19:53:50 »

I used tinley tech for my rear end kit (on my 2.2) good service, good parts, but not the cheapest. I would recommend them though.

In right circumstances, such as lack of forum availability combined with high mileage, with an immediate need, I would pay £1.2k.

My commute will be 15k a year soon, if I lost the 2.2 LPG, I would pay to get 3.2 done. As it would pay for itself in a year or so.
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