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Bottle Jacks
« on: 20 December 2013, 13:53:00 »

Is it just me or is the base/support part really small, considering what it maybe lifting?

This type appears common:

http://www.sgs-engineering.com/tbj4-4-ton-telescopic-bottle-jack?___store=sgs_en&___store=sgs_en&gclid=CN-L5Yv0vrsCFZGWtAodAXYAfQ

This one from the states looks better, I like the lift point, looks like it would sit nicely on the chassis rail. The base is also bigger, which for me makes it look more stable?

Reason for asking is in a single garage space is limited, I can't easily (if at-all) get around the side of the car to use my proper big jack. So thinking of using ramps, to drive up and onto. Then using a bottle jack which would easily slot under, lift car, then drop it onto a stand.

That would allow wheel(s) removal and allow working around the car, while it's nose or arse is in a garage.

Anyone use them regularly or recommend one?
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« Reply #1 on: 20 December 2013, 14:17:52 »

Is it just me or is the base/support part really small, considering what it maybe lifting?

This type appears common:

http://www.sgs-engineering.com/tbj4-4-ton-telescopic-bottle-jack?___store=sgs_en&___store=sgs_en&gclid=CN-L5Yv0vrsCFZGWtAodAXYAfQ

This one from the states looks better, I like the lift point, looks like it would sit nicely on the chassis rail. The base is also bigger, which for me makes it look more stable?

Reason for asking is in a single garage space is limited, I can't easily (if at-all) get around the side of the car to use my proper big jack. So thinking of using ramps, to drive up and onto. Then using a bottle jack which would easily slot under, lift car, then drop it onto a stand.

That would allow wheel(s) removal and allow working around the car, while it's nose or arse is in a garage.

Anyone use them regularly or recommend one?
They aren't designed for that... ie lifting in an arc.

Best suited for commercial vehicles, on flat level surfaces, for jacking axles, wher the actual lift height is only a couple of inches at most.

Only diy use is for supporting gearbox when changing rear mounts, helping support exhausts etc, or as cheap portapower for straightening bent body work...
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #2 on: 20 December 2013, 14:20:53 »

Humm understood, that's annoying, as I was hoping that would a solution to jacking the car with limited access either side  :(
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« Reply #3 on: 20 December 2013, 14:21:29 »

I wouldn't use any bottle jack , not stable enough . Pity they dont design them with supports like an axle stand  :)
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #4 on: 20 December 2013, 14:25:09 »

If you want one then have a look under the bonnet of a discovery in he scrappy, left side, next to the radiator, under the plastic inspection panel. If it's not already been robbed there should be an OE landrover bottle jack there. I use one for assorted things including horizontally to force locking wheel nut keys into place if required.

Be cheaper than the link you have and probably only used a handfull of times if at all.
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #5 on: 20 December 2013, 14:25:34 »

I wouldn't use any bottle jack , not stable enough . Pity they dont design them with supports like an axle stand  :)

What I was thinking, my 'big jack' is on 4 wheels and rather long/wide so very stable. Area on these bottle jacks are tiny  :(
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #6 on: 20 December 2013, 14:27:12 »

If you want one then have a look under the bonnet of a discovery in he scrappy, left side, next to the radiator, under the plastic inspection panel. If it's not already been robbed there should be an OE landrover bottle jack there. I use one for assorted things including horizontally to force locking wheel nut keys into place if required.

Be cheaper than the link you have and probably only used a handfull of times if at all.

Cheers, will take a look when next at the scrappy. Thing is I was planning to to be in use fair bit, so that I can have the front/rear on stands while in a single garage
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #7 on: 20 December 2013, 14:30:35 »

I meant that the one in the scrappy would be hardly used. Mine gets pressganged into use many times! ;D
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« Reply #8 on: 20 December 2013, 14:31:02 »

Probably a non starter jacking an Omega in a single garage... better off using ramps to lift either end up then jack/support as required :-\ you'll have bugger all working space too.

Trying will likely end at A+E though :-\
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #9 on: 20 December 2013, 14:31:19 »

I meant that the one in the scrappy would be hardly used. Mine gets pressganged into use many times! ;D

Ahhh see your point  :y

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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #10 on: 20 December 2013, 14:32:31 »

Probably a non starter jacking an Omega in a single garage... better off using ramps to lift either end up then jack/support as required :-\

Trying will likely end at A+E though :-\

Stands not an issue, got those, front/rear not a problem to get on.

Issue then is removing a wheel, for basic things like pads/discs ect.  :-\
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« Reply #11 on: 20 December 2013, 14:35:41 »

Buy a better coat ;D

Or a gazebo...a 6x3m one will give some protection and working space :y
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #12 on: 20 December 2013, 14:43:04 »

Probably a non starter jacking an Omega in a single garage... better off using ramps to lift either end up then jack/support as required :-\

Trying will likely end at A+E though :-\

Stands not an issue, got those, front/rear not a problem to get on.

Issue then is removing a wheel, for basic things like pads/discs ect.  :-\

Given that bottle jacks are only any good for "straight" lifts ..and therefore fail on long distance lifting (arcs) ... a long winded solution to your particular problem might be ... raise car by driving up ramp .. then use bottle jack to raise the car a further "tad" to allow ramp to be removed, and stand fitted .. work on car .. with wheel off as required ... reverse procedure to lower ????  Its a faf I agree .. but if space is limited .....  :(
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« Reply #13 on: 20 December 2013, 14:46:56 »

Driving an Omega into a single garage and being able to get out of the car is a gamble as it is... let alone removing a wheel :-\
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Re: Bottle Jacks
« Reply #14 on: 20 December 2013, 14:55:10 »

Probably a non starter jacking an Omega in a single garage... better off using ramps to lift either end up then jack/support as required :-\

Trying will likely end at A+E though :-\

Stands not an issue, got those, front/rear not a problem to get on.

Issue then is removing a wheel, for basic things like pads/discs ect.  :-\

Given that bottle jacks are only any good for "straight" lifts ..and therefore fail on long distance lifting (arcs) ... a long winded solution to your particular problem might be ... raise car by driving up ramp .. then use bottle jack to raise the car a further "tad" to allow ramp to be removed, and stand fitted .. work on car .. with wheel off as required ... reverse procedure to lower ????  Its a faf I agree .. but if space is limited .....  :(

This is exactly how I planned to use it  :y

Use ramps to get the height, then use jack to support it, while the ramp is swapped for a stand. A hassle yes, but sods law the car will need new pads when it's pishing it down out there.

Driving an Omega into a single garage and being able to get out of the car is a gamble as it is... let alone removing a wheel :-\

Unlike some other members here, I'll avoid mentioning names  ::) - I'm not quite as errrrr, how to put this. FAT as them  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Seriously though, it is a bit of a struggle but easily doable  :)
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