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Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« on: 30 January 2014, 20:27:52 »

I have a 2003 2.2 cd automatic omega, My dad found it and was going to break it for parts for his 2002 2.2 cd but he found that it was firstly Oyster while his is Star Silver 2 and that it was far too good to break as its really solid and mostly rot free.

Now when the car was brought for a massive £200 we already knew that the head gasket had failed (hence the price), the oil is full of water and the exhaust seems to think that the expansion tank is the best route to take lol... The car still runs although very sick with the engine light on constantly.
I'm wondering what the best course of action is as regards repairs, the best quote from a local garage is £560 without the timing belt or water pump replaced. I would attempt it myself but I have a ruined spine and wouldn't be able to comfortably do the work. I also have no idea if the engine has overheated at any point so would presume that the head will need skimming.
The car has done 116801 miles if that makes any difference to anything and I'm located in chesterfield, Derbyshire if anyone in the club could do it at a more reasonable price.
I would appreciate any advice on what other parts would need replacing at the same time so that I don't get any nasty surprises.
Thanks Graham
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #1 on: 30 January 2014, 20:30:56 »

If you're having to pay a garage to do it, it possibly isn't viable. The parts to do the HG itself aren't that bad, but several hours labour will add up I'm afraid.
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #2 on: 30 January 2014, 20:35:57 »

wow that was fast  ;D
I would consider doing it myself but I have no idea as to what's involved ... I know it's a time consuming job but I have been told a bunch of horror stories about these engines and being awful to work on yourself. It's definitely getting repaired no matter what as I love the way Omega's drive and look so I'm kind of attached lol

Are there any guides on the forum for the 2.2 engine??
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #3 on: 30 January 2014, 20:44:08 »

The 2.2 petrol is actually pretty easy to work on. If you've done a HG before, this would present no real surprises.

I'd refurb the head, ie new stem seals etc. As to skimming, I'd check it first.

I don't believe we have a step by step guide (so if you're tempted to do the job, feel free to do a guide ;D)
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #4 on: 30 January 2014, 20:47:57 »

It would be a fair investment to shell out £560 and not have the water pump and t-belt replaced, knowing my luck the belt would go the day I got it back after the head work :'(

If you get the head changed how much more do the garage want to replace the belt/tensioner etc? bearing in mind they will have to take the belt off to do the head work, so the labour will be around the same, more time needed to replace the tensioner and water pump etc

I would not be happy to have the head done and still have the original belt on


I hate to suggest the next option as Migs are becoming an endangered species but depending on the parts you could use/ swap over from the donor car to your dads car,wheels, battery etc you could then scrap (Shudder) the donor car complete for what you paid for it or more.   I had a Suzuki Liana with HGF taken away this week by a very nice chap with a transporter in exchange for £200
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #5 on: 30 January 2014, 20:52:56 »

Pity you couldnt get another engine  :-\ did that with my v6-cheaper than parts to fix it :D made old one into coffee table then sold it Bonus my replacement engine was free after that and £50 in pocket too
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #6 on: 30 January 2014, 21:07:05 »

I have done HG's before ... I suppose I have a garage to work in and I can take all the time I need as the car needs a few other minor things as well before I press the old girl back into service fully! If I decide to do the job myself I will be sure to take lots of pictures and try to make a step by step guide for others. I'm guessing that the horror stories I have heard are just that, stories. are the correct torque settings around on here for the head bolts as I'm told thy are xxNm + 90 degrees, +90 degrees, +15 degrees. No one seems to be able to make up their minds as to what the torque settings actually are  :D
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #7 on: 30 January 2014, 21:13:10 »

Cylinder head torque is 25nm or 18lbf ft  :y then angles
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #8 on: 30 January 2014, 21:14:22 »

Cylinder head torque is 25nm or 18lbf ft  :y then angles
remember its a 2.2 :)
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #9 on: 30 January 2014, 21:18:35 »

Torque settings should be broadly the same as the 16valve 2.0 in Haynes :y
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #10 on: 30 January 2014, 21:21:07 »

Cylinder head torque is 25nm or 18lbf ft  :y then angles
remember its a 2.2 :)
Yes and what 
25nm or 18lbf stage 1
stage 2 90 deg
stage 3 90 deg
stage 4 90 deg
stage 5 15 deg
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #11 on: 30 January 2014, 21:21:35 »

Cylinder head torque is 25nm or 18lbf ft  :y then angles
remember its a 2.2 :)
And Autodata  :y :y
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #12 on: 30 January 2014, 21:24:59 »

Cylinder head torque is 25nm or 18lbf ft  :y then angles
remember its a 2.2 :)
Yes and what 
25nm or 18lbf stage 1
stage 2 90 deg
stage 3 90 deg
stage 4 90 deg
stage 5 15 deg
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #13 on: 30 January 2014, 22:09:27 »

How about a pm to Darth Loo Knee and/or Elite Pete? Neither are very far from you & I'm sure will be competitive on price but will know what they're doing.
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Re: Head Gasket Blown, best course of action?
« Reply #14 on: 30 January 2014, 22:24:32 »

wow that was fast  ;D
I would consider doing it myself but I have no idea as to what's involved ... I know it's a time consuming job but I have been told a bunch of horror stories about these engines and being awful to work on yourself. It's definitely getting repaired no matter what as I love the way Omega's drive and look so I'm kind of attached lol

Are there any guides on the forum for the 2.2 engine??
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=106562.0
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