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[jonny2112]

Finally in the position to buy a new lpg kit as planned. I rang this morning with a quick query before ordering online, only to be told that he doesn't have a v6 Stag kit atm! Tried to talk me into another (KME?) more expensive one, but apart from the money, the whole point was to get a recognised kit for all the help and support available here.
Ah well. I've to check back to see if there are any kits coming in in the near future, but I guess I'll have to start looking elsewhere too 

[jonny2112]

Just spoke to the guy at lpg gpl. Can't decide if it's a sales ploy or not but he tells me that due to regular failts after 6-8 months, they won't be getting the Stag kits back in!
Need to start again 

[tunnie]

Just spoke to the guy at lpg gpl. Can't decide if it's a sales ploy or not but he tells me that due to regular failts after 6-8 months, they won't be getting the Stag kits back in!
Need to start again 

Failures of what though, injectors? Vaps?

Considering the extensive use of Stag Kit here, it's proven very reliable I'd say. The only issues being slight lag at high RPM and abuse by some of our more, "lead footed" members.

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, can't recall many failures with the Stag kits on here. Someone had an ECU die, IIRC? There've been a few minor sensor faults but not much else, if memory serves. Mine is one of the earlier ones and it's still going strong after getting on for 90k miles.

[jonny2112]

I got the impression it was a software issue, though I didn't exactly catch what he said. Would I have understood anyway? Probably not!

Stag was the target due to its proven worthiness here

[Kevin Wood]

Indeed. The knowledge of that system here makes it top of the list, IMHO.

[TheBoy]

I got the impression it was a software issue, though I didn't exactly catch what he said. Would I have understood anyway? Probably not!

Stag was the target due to its proven worthiness here

AC frequent release updates.

That said, both of mine are well out of date. Job for the summer...   ...on a night that Kevin Wood chap lights his BBQ, and we can mull it over with a beer in hand...  ...I see a plan forming


I have got a potential injector fault I need to look at when I get a garage. I think chrisgixer had similar on the same injector type.

One does suffer a tad of lag, worse as tank empties, at 6750rpm gear changes. Suspect evap not man enough. Other sees no lag.

[jonny2112]

Indeed. The knowledge of that system here makes it top of the list, IMHO.

Exactly right Kevin 

I got the impression it was a software issue, though I didn't exactly catch what he said. Would I have understood anyway? Probably not!

Stag was the target due to its proven worthiness here

AC frequent release updates.

That said, both of mine are well out of date. Job for the summer...   ...on a night that Kevin Wood chap lights his BBQ, and we can mull it over with a beer in hand...  ...I see a plan forming

That sounds familiar TB! Something about AC 

[jonny2112]

Any other suppliers recommended?
I know the bay has a couple, though was previously warned off these. Most other companies seem to want to fit the whole thing, rather than supply a kit for DIY install.
Whilst I could wait another month or so for the more expensive kit, as discussed this would defeat the purpose, particularly with my lack of knowledge. Will have to be Stag.
On looking at the site again, it starts with a base kit to which you add your preferred package - based on number of cylinders and power output. I'm guessing the latter is basically the vap and injectors, and am now wondering if he still has the base kits but not the right number of injectors, etc, or vice versa? A call for tomorrow I think, but probably no stag stuff left at all. I don't really need injectors and I guess a vap could be bought separately somewhere ......

[Martin_1962]

Any other suppliers recommended?
I know the bay has a couple, though was previously warned off these. Most other companies seem to want to fit the whole thing, rather than supply a kit for DIY install.
Whilst I could wait another month or so for the more expensive kit, as discussed this would defeat the purpose, particularly with my lack of knowledge. Will have to be Stag.
On looking at the site again, it starts with a base kit to which you add your preferred package - based on number of cylinders and power output. I'm guessing the latter is basically the vap and injectors, and am now wondering if he still has the base kits but not the right number of injectors, etc, or vice versa? A call for tomorrow I think, but probably no stag stuff left at all. I don't really need injectors and I guess a vap could be bought separately somewhere ......

There is a queue for my Romano system!

[05omegav6]

You only need the loom and Stag ECU, software and leads can be borrowed I would have thought

KME gold vaporiser, plus suitable injectors, both readily available, and the likes of Tinley Tech will freely sell you all the other hardware, albeit at a price

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm not sure if this is useful jonny but I saw this company's website the other day.

Land Rover focused, no mention of the brand and I've no idea if the prices are competitive to be honest, but thought it might be of interest as he supplies kits for the Landy DIYers.  Might be worth a phone call? 

http://www.blazegas.com/kits.html

[D]

I'm not sure if this is useful jonny but I saw this company's website the other day.

Land Rover focused, no mention of the brand and I've no idea if the prices are competitive to be honest, but thought it might be of interest as he supplies kits for the Landy DIYers.  Might be worth a phone call? 

http://www.blazegas.com/kits.html

Supposedly very good installer. But pricey when I enquired and an authorised Prins installer.

[jonny2112]

Thanks for all the info guys - much appreciated 

As Al suggests, I need the loom and ECU, along with the vap. Depending on the generic nature, or otherwise, of the install I may have the rest of the required parts in situ already.
Plenty of food for thought!

[chrisgixer]

If looking away from stag, Prins is the only way I'd go. With the support level here, the odd quirk is easily diagnosed on a stag kit. Take that away and IMO something more reliable us needed.
 But they are only available from Prins approved fitters. They won't entertain diy, which will get the "jobs for the boys" sabres rattling.


As Al says re Stag, you only need the loom and ecu, and arguably a set up lead. Assuming you have access to a lap top which most people do. Software is available From the Ac web site so no problem there. (Prins won't allow that I'm sure.)
 The rest can be acquired from the usual source, or in the trade generally. Personally I'd splash a bit more on the injectors than the usual moto-gas ones. They are only just capable of keeping up, ime. No,problems with the Kme hold vap, or the stag side of things here.