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[zirk]

Ok, 3.2 Elite Auto Estate, getting her ready for an Mot this afternoon, not been started for a while, jump in this morning, connect battery, starts on the button, quick spin, pre Mot check all fine, treat her to a wash, scuttle full of leaves so a good scrub there, get it warmed up ready to leave for the MOT, wont start.

I get Flashing EML and Spanner with Ing. on, checked with the 2nd Key same deal.

With the Ing, on I can hear the Trottle Body Clicking and some relays in the Relay Box and some clicking behind the HU inside and the odd clicking from the SL at the back, Clicking seems to be in sync with the Flashing EML and Spanner Lights, all other lights fine.

Diss, Battery, unplug ECU for a few mins, put all back same?

Help.     

Edit, forgot, cant do Peddle Trick or Read Codes via Bluetooth.

Could at a push, grab another ECU from another Car (Imobiliser ?) but that would make me car'less if I screw things up.

[Kevin Wood]

Flashing spanner light is an immobiliser issue but not seen it with the other EML on as well. Which one is flashing, the one with a picture of an engine or the spanner?

Are you saying that the pedal trick doesn't flash out any codes? What happens instead?

[zirk]

Flashing spanner light is an immobiliser issue but not seen it with the other EML on as well. Which one is flashing, the one with a picture of an engine or the spanner?

Are you saying that the pedal trick doesn't flash out any codes? What happens instead?

Both EML and Spanner.

If I try and P trick it nothing happens, the EML/ Spanner still flash in time with the Ticking.Clicking

[zirk]

Quick thought, any bits hanging under the Scuttle Panel that could of got a soaking?

[zirk]

Just managed to get the cheapo reader to work once only.

OBD Report
Engine light OFF
Active: 0
Pending: 2
P0705 (pending)
U2105 (pending)

P0705 not listed on OOF, my reader says,-
Transmission Range Sensor, A circuit PRNDL input

U2105 not listed on OOF, my reader says,- Not available,
(could this be Can Bus Issue?)

[zirk]

Quick thought, any bits hanging under the Scuttle Panel that could of got a soaking?

Assuming the P0705 is the Auto Selector switch, which Im not convinced thats what the problem is, but this is all new territory to me, could the switch have got a soaking from the Scuttle Panel clean?, surely its waterproof if its exposed to the elements?

[Big_Al]

Hi Chris,
            this sounds very similar to the fault that  Toledodude  (Paul) from Ipswich had last year on his 2.6.

It was a faulty engine ECU in the end .  This problem occured after the car had been stood up for a while I believe. But it started fine for a few days before the fault occured .

HTH       

[zirk]

Hi Chris,
            this sounds very similar to the fault that  Toledodude  (Paul) from Ipswich had last year on his 2.6.

It was a faulty engine ECU in the end .  This problem occured after the car had been stood up for a while I believe. But it started fine for a few days before the fault occured .

HTH     

Thanks Al, I'll see if I can find the Post, not sure if thats good or bad though. 

Had a tiny bit of progress, just gonna have a Cupa and then post up.

[Big_Al]

Hi Chris,
            this sounds very similar to the fault that  Toledodude  (Paul) from Ipswich had last year on his 2.6.

It was a faulty engine ECU in the end .  This problem occured after the car had been stood up for a while I believe. But it started fine for a few days before the fault occured .

HTH     

Thanks Al, I'll see if I can find the Post, not sure if thats good or bad though. 

Had a tiny bit of progress, just gonna have a Cupa and then post up.

if it helps to find it ,It was late May /Early june 2013  . Quite a long thread which started with "Clicking throttle butterflys"

[zirk]

Right a little bit progress, did manage to start it, once, started on the button, this time the spanner light came, read codes,

Engine light OFF / Active: 1 / Pending: 0 / U2105 again

So, cleared codes, with engine running, and took this opportunity to warm the Engine up to temp with the bonnet down, with the view it may or may not dry any wet inside there, all revving ok, sounds sweet, up to temp, switch off, wont start again same deal as before flashing EML and Spanner and clicking Throttle Body and clicking behind Dash this time (May have been the same noise as behind the HU as before).

Checked codes again, U2105 again, cleared, so I tried moving the Auto Shift back forward, sideways just in case, didn't seem to make make much difference.

Now for every 20 x Ing. on you get the Flashing E and S, but if you wait, sometimes they stay on for a few seconds longer, catch that just at the right moment and it starts and runs, followed by our friendly spanner Code U2105. 
 

[RobG]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=115237.msg1455719#msg1455719

[zirk]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=115237.msg1455719#msg1455719

Thanks Rob, did managed to find it, FFS 10 pages of hag, feel like committing Herri Kerri just reading it. 

Only difference there is Ive managed (I think) to now get an intermittent issue.

[zirk]

Going back out to check some voltages at various points etc, also think I'll unplug the ECU bring it in and warm it slightly on the Rad.

Meanwhile, can someone eplain this P0705 Code, I assuming PRNDL selector, and what effect this would have on Starting, ways around or quick or temp fix, and whether this would upset the ECU? (Auto Box ECU talking to the main ECU )

Also anyone able to shed some light on this U2105 Error Code?

Thanks Chris. 

Edit, oh and another one, would a 2.6 ECU work on a 3.2?

[DrAndyB]

Sounds daft  . But is it an Auto and moved gear selector ?

That caught me out on Wife's VW as stopped car on drive, engine off, opened garage, tried to start car and nowt !!!!! Only the sound of various relays saying NO !!!  All rather embarrassing after 10 mins of threatening to take car apart as noticed was in Drive still.  Popped into Park and started a treat 

Not sure if this same on Omega Auto as mine is a Manual 

[Entwood]

Check the transponder chip in the key .. it "may" have come loose from its housing and be moving inside the key, it doesn't have to move far to stop the immobilisor doing its job .. which is what the flashing EML is telling you.

It's a very small, black rectangular shaped bit of plastic, sits in a little "detent" in the key near the base of the blade...

Quick dab of superglue sorts it .. been there, got the T shirt .. but was in France at the time and stuck until it was sussed !!