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[cd 2.2]

This is a bit awkward, My 03 plate Omega B FL has stupid thatcham VX wheel bolts fitted (only 3 as one is back in it's box). I guess you can all see what's coming here ... Some numpty previously used an air gun to do the wheel bolts up *all of them*  . This is O.K I thought as I own a 2 foot breaker bar, "I can use the supplied key and carefully remove them for good" or so I thought 
Whoever it was that tightened the bolts up so monumentally tight also sheared the pattern from the stupid key, all I have to undo these damn bolts is a 2 piece key that will never work .... I have even tried to remove all of the bolts leaving the locker on and bouncing all of the weight on the back of the car (standing on back of car and jumping on it), all this achieved was some loud cracking noises from that wheel and no movement whatsoever!!

VX want £50 + VAT and can't guarantee it's going to be the right one even with my car pass, the broken key and the key number . I have rung around my local garages and the only person that says he can get them off wants to get an oxy torch on the bolt heads *No frikin way that's happening* and that leaves 1 option ... Pay Redhouse service station £90 all in to dynomec them off !!!

Any of you guys have any suggestions or have a key with the same number as mine that I could borrow pretty pls? Key number is FER17127 ... I would pay you in coffee and bacon butties if you could lol

Cheers in advance Graham

[jonny2112]

They are a real pita!
Some have had success forcing an old socket onto the bolt? Not foolproof, but not too drastic either.

[cd 2.2]

They are unfortunately the pastry cutter type with the spinning collar so that's never going to work IMHO!
I thought maybe a gatorgrip type socket but don't think that will work either to be fair 

[jonny2112]

Apologies 
It's getting to the stage then where you may have to take more extreme measures, and allow one of the garages to have a go? Particularly if that's guaranteed?
A matching key may also be an option I suppose? I might have one at home and will check tomorrow, just in case! And I'm sure others will have a few ideas too.

[cd 2.2]

If someone has a good key then I don't mind donating something towards it or loaning it then returning tbh. It's unfortunately a desperate situation as the tyres all need to be changed 

[bigegg]

socket on it as close as you can, then blob of weld down the inside.
I think you've got to the point where *some* damage is inevitable - set of wheel bolts + (possibly) 4 sockets.
or just some m(14?) 17mm nuts to weld on?

[Ever Ready]

socket on it as close as you can, then blob of weld down the inside.
I think you've got to the point where *some* damage is inevitable - set of wheel bolts + (possibly) 4 sockets.
or just some m(14?) 17mm nuts to weld on?

Sounds like the way to go, locking wheel have always seemed more of a hindrance than a help ime

[swordfish]

 if you are good with a welder. weld a big 32 mm bolt to the locking wheel nut but only use a 32 mm , anything smaller will just snap off
that will remove it no problem done it many times before 

[robson]

sounds like a drive to Manchester.

[robson]

Look at "Omega wheel locking key " on ebay is this any good

[geoffr70]

I wonder how many people suggesting to weld on a socket have actually tried it.

When I lost my locking key, I did this.

1. Get a flat head screw driver and hammer. With the blade at 90 degrees to the collar, hammer into it all the way and it'll come off. Surprisingly easily, like toffee.

2. Using a reverse thread locking bolt remover, remove the bolts. The only downside is is that after each one you need to remove the remover from the bolt. I used a vice and a grinder to grind two flats on to get a purchase.

This saved me considerable time, money, and faff.

[terry paget]

You give me key numbers. I have two sets of locking nuts and removal tools, numbers 91158463 and 91138778, I assume Vx part nos. Almost certainly will not fit yours, but who knows? Can someone in the trade tell us what nos. yours would be? Would pics help?

[Andy B]

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With the blade at 90 degrees to the collar, hammer into it all the way and it'll come off. Surprisingly easily, like toffee.
 .....

I suspect that depends on what type of locking bolts are fitted. The type with three holes in the middle that were originally fitted to mine had a very thin rotating collar that, like yours, was very easily cut off. The later cake cutter type that are now fitted have a much thicker collar that I think would be more difficult to cut off.

[cd 2.2]

they are definitely the later *THATCHAM* vx wheel bolts ... they are deep seated bolts and have a hefty spinning collar! I think I'm going to pay to get them dynomec'd off as all other options will/may result in damage to the wheels as well as my wallet!

Stupid air tools, wouldn't be surprised if the garage guys do everything with them including getting dressed and eating breakfast in the morning before jetting off to work on their air gun lol 

[robson]

Isnt there a number on the locking bolt key.