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Widest wheel, lowest offset
« on: 19 February 2014, 13:12:29 »

Bit of a random one, but, whats the widest wheel and lowest offset you can run on the front and rear?
Because when I get an Omega I want to put 18x9.5 et12 wheels on it, but I'm going to need adapters to change the PCD from 5x110 to 5x114.3, I also want to put 16x10 et-10 wheels on the rear.

So what I'm asking is, are both of them width-offsets combo's possible?

Thanks, James
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #1 on: 19 February 2014, 13:37:39 »

To avoid catching the wheelarch under compression and rubbing the inside of the tyre on the strut, you're generally looking at all 235 tyres or 245 tyres that do not have rim protection on the inner edge, and 8J, around ET30 - ET32.

Rear has more scope due to more space inboard
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2014, 14:46:34 »

To avoid catching the wheelarch under compression and rubbing the inside of the tyre on the strut, you're generally looking at all 235 tyres or 245 tyres that do not have rim protection on the inner edge, and 8J, around ET30 - ET32.

Rear has more scope due to more space inboard

So will a 9.5j et12 wheel fit with a 20-30mm spacer/PCD adapter? I'm going to roll/flare the arches too.

On the front I plan on using 205/40R18's, and on the rear I plan on using 225/35R18's
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #3 on: 19 February 2014, 15:21:00 »

Those tyres are stupidly narrow for the rim widths you're thinking of :-\
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #4 on: 19 February 2014, 15:59:35 »

Those tyres are stupidly narrow for the rim widths you're thinking of :-\
I know, but that's how I want them to be haha
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #5 on: 19 February 2014, 16:02:07 »

You'll also be running into camber issues at the rear, and however it might look, that will be horrific to drive ::)
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #6 on: 19 February 2014, 16:04:56 »

Excuse my stupidity... but what is the point of fitting wide rims and narrow tyres ??? seems to defeat the object to me .. :(
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #7 on: 19 February 2014, 16:09:15 »

205 tyres will be dangerous on a 9.5j rim, simple as that - quite apart from anything else (spacers, PCD adaptors, etc. ugh!). That'll be way outside the tyre manufacturer's recommendation, so if anything goes wrong and you end up before the beak an expert witness will have you for breakfast.
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #8 on: 19 February 2014, 16:16:24 »

I really don't know why I bothered asking. All I want to know is if it will fit or not, but you lot seem to care more about camber, tyre width and if something goes wrong with the wheel/tyre set I want to use.
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #9 on: 19 February 2014, 16:33:25 »

I really don't know why I bothered asking. All I want to know is if it will fit or not, but you lot seem to care more about camber, tyre width and if something goes wrong with the wheel/tyre set I want to use.

...they're trying to help guide you away from making a spectacular cockup. Omegas are hugely sensitive to suspension setup, and if you're 19 and debating whether to get one, burning through £400-500 worth of tyres every three weeks, because you're running them way off spec, isn't a good way to spend your time.
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #10 on: 19 February 2014, 16:47:16 »

If that's what I want to do, then that's my choice. Let me find out the hard way. I was simply after a "Yeah, they'll fit" or a "No, the offset is too low"

I get that it's a big wheel with a fairly small tyre on it, but thats the look I want and if it handles like crap, then I'll have to either sort it some how, or just live with it handling weird.
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #11 on: 19 February 2014, 16:47:46 »

The most important parts of a car are the 4 very small patches of rubber that keep you both on the road and travelling in the direction you require, as well as ensuring you actually stop when you require to.

You seem to wish to compromise those 4 patches of rubber for some, as yet, unknown reason.

There is a high possibility that, unless you intend to only drive in the sub-sahara deserts, that you will be driving the car somewhere close to other members of the human race. Your compromise not only risks your life, but puts all other road users at risk as well.

I, for one, will not assist in such reckless behavior, as quite simply put, it could be my family you put at risk, something I will not allow.

Melodramatic ?? perhaps, but that's how I see it.

If I saw a vehicle with such a combination I would have no qualms about reporting to both police and insurance - as they both would probably take a serious view of the roadworthiness of such a combination.
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #12 on: 19 February 2014, 16:51:35 »

So because I want to do something outside of the norm, you think the car will instantly kill everyone and everything within a 10 mile radius?... Nice.
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #13 on: 19 February 2014, 16:59:09 »

So because I want to do something outside of the norm, you think the car will instantly kill everyone and everything within a 10 mile radius?... Nice.

Set up poorly with standard wheels/tyres/suspension the Omega becomes uncontrollable at best, start messing with components and Entwoods point is bang on the money.

And from bitter experience, destroying the tyres every week or so will really start to piss you off.

But hey, what do we know... ::)
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Re: Widest wheel, lowest offset
« Reply #14 on: 19 February 2014, 17:00:17 »

If that's what I want to do, then that's my choice. Let me find out the hard way. I was simply after a "Yeah, they'll fit" or a "No, the offset is too low"

I get that it's a big wheel with a fairly small tyre on it, but thats the look I want and if it handles like crap, then I'll have to either sort it some how, or just live with it handling weird.

If you want your tyres like that, you need a VW forum. Don't come onto a forum where people have experience, and throw it back at them.

Presumably you've not driven an Omega, or anything fairly hefty and RWD. With your lack of driving experience especially, even a sloppy standard car would be "interesting" in the wet - never mind something you've buggered about with in the name of style. Ill say it again, Omegas are HUGELY sensitive to the setup of the chassis, including even what brand/ type of tyres you put on.

On your intro topic you're bemoaning the fact that the insurance is expensive - that doesn't tally with wanting to go all out and put stretched tyres on, and damned be the financial penalty should they end up scrubbing to pieces within a short time.
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