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extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« on: 20 February 2014, 00:15:54 »

any one know if thers an easy way to get extra steering lock or is there a way to get a lot more lock out of it, i mean shortened hubs extended arms exc? i know how to do it on a bmw but the omega has steerin box so it will be different?
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #1 on: 20 February 2014, 02:10:07 »

Extending the steering arms on the uprights, or increasing the distance between the pivots on the pitman arm and drop link will do it. However, the first isn't really viable due to their integral nature, and the second will require fabricating new parts which is a fairly major engineering exercise. Welding on steering components like these is an instant MOT failure.
You'd need to investigate just how much clearance there is for extra lock which probably isn't much. I wouldn't be surprised to find that you end up with some odd steering geometry issues.

Why do you want more lock?
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #2 on: 20 February 2014, 14:28:08 »

As said, fairly major engineering to achieve. In addition, you may have to look at the rest of the geometry, as these types of mods will pull the dynamic camber out on an Omega, leading to odd characteristics.

Is it just you lack lock generally, or are you trying to achieve something special?
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #3 on: 20 February 2014, 14:29:54 »

Turning circle is circa ten meters as standard which is pretty good for a 5m long vehicle
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #4 on: 20 February 2014, 14:50:12 »

Turning circle is circa ten meters as standard which is pretty good for a 5m long vehicle
Less with TC switched off ::)

By comparison with current exec saloons, its not quite as good (though not far off). Can't say I've ever thought "I wish this Omega(s) has better lock".
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #5 on: 20 February 2014, 18:19:41 »

Try driving a movano for a few days,then complain about how bad that is and how great the omega is :y
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #6 on: 20 February 2014, 19:28:20 »

i just keep findin my self needing more lock wen at opposit lock, if i cut a bit out of the wish bones and strenthened them and then cut a bit off the steering lock stoopers wud that do or is the sterin box out as far as it car go? and cud you explain that first answer a bit better nat really gettin, dont care bout the way the car handles in a straight line if you know wat i mean lol
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #7 on: 20 February 2014, 19:39:23 »

Extending the steering arms on the uprights, or increasing the distance between the pivots on the pitman arm and drop link will do it. However, the first isn't really viable due to their integral nature, and the second will require fabricating new parts which is a fairly major engineering exercise. Welding on steering components like these is an instant MOT failure.
You'd need to investigate just how much clearance there is for extra lock which probably isn't much. I wouldn't be surprised to find that you end up with some odd steering geometry issues.

Why do you want more lock?
Do you really want the answer to that question?
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #8 on: 20 February 2014, 19:41:52 »

Opps it >:(

Perhaps you should have stuck to drifting 3 series coupes as you obviously cannot control a proper car :-X
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #9 on: 20 February 2014, 19:50:22 »

Might help to buy a dictionary  ;D
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #10 on: 20 February 2014, 19:55:45 »

i just keep findin my self needing more lock wen at opposit lock, if i cut a bit out of the wish bones and strenthened them and then cut a bit off the steering lock stoopers wud that do or is the sterin box out as far as it car go? and cud you explain that first answer a bit better nat really gettin, dont care bout the way the car handles in a straight line if you know wat i mean lol

Again, translation required for this simple soul... who only speaks English .. :(
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #11 on: 20 February 2014, 20:03:57 »

Google translate came back with...

"Whilst sliding around carparks at ridiculous speeds, with my reverse mounted baseball cap upon my bonce, I fi nd that I need more opposite lock in some vain attempt to maintain control. Obviously lifting off slightly is not an option. How the car behaves in any other circumstance is irrelevant, as a really don't care. What do you guys think?"
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #12 on: 20 February 2014, 20:06:33 »

What a waste of an omega,going around in circles,sounds like it needs a new home or a real driver to drive it in a straight line  :-X
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #13 on: 20 February 2014, 20:08:32 »

Google translate came back with...

"Whilst sliding around carparks at ridiculous speeds, with my reverse mounted baseball cap upon my bonce, I fi nd that I need more opposite lock in some vain attempt to maintain control. Obviously lifting off slightly is not an option. How the car behaves in any other circumstance is irrelevant, as a really don't care. What do you guys think?"

Thanks Al ... starting to understand now ....  :D :D :D :D
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Re: extra steering lock 2.5 v6
« Reply #14 on: 20 February 2014, 20:11:24 »

never had a a BMW only put extra lock in BMWs for people and as far as handling it ive been drifting it for 2 years now and i just want to go more side ways and enter corners at a lot higher speed knowing that im not gonna run out of lock, wile us have made an assumption that im some teen wreckin about in a car park that fact of the matter is that it is purely drift car and im in need of serious answers so could u kindly stop wasting my time, always was an omega man always will be ;)
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