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« Reply #15 on: 27 February 2014, 20:52:15 »

Could the car be driven to a remote location. Battery disconnected. Preferably on a windy day. Undo the relevant connection with thick gloves and leave it with the boot open from a safe distance....?


Then drive it home swap the valve with some ptfe, job done. No?

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« Reply #16 on: 27 February 2014, 21:19:06 »

Could the car be driven to a remote location. Battery disconnected. Preferably on a windy day. Undo the relevant connection with thick gloves and leave it with the boot open from a safe distance....?


Then drive it home swap the valve with some ptfe, job done. No?

Yes, in theory, but I don't think the dip tube is part of the valve assembly on a 4 hole tank. It's built into the tank.
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« Reply #17 on: 27 February 2014, 21:44:11 »

Yes I don't remember fitting anything long and thin on the 4 holes.

Ok, same procedure bit with a new tank. Plus fittings.
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« Reply #18 on: 27 February 2014, 21:48:47 »

Yes I don't remember fitting anything long and thin on the 4 holes.

Ok, same procedure bit with a new tank. Plus fittings.

Yep, old tank out, new tank in, connect up the pipes and then deal with the old tank.
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« Reply #19 on: 27 February 2014, 21:50:51 »

I wonder if the fitting place are sending you down the garden path here.  A pick up disintegrating?  I mean really?

Could it not just be that you have picked up some rubbish from a dodgy lpg station and your liquid filter has clogged up a bit, enough that the pressure over 1/4 full will push enough LPG through but under 1/4 the pressure isn't enough.

Plus, they want £600 to replace a tank?  I hope they polish your knob too for that price!
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« Reply #20 on: 27 February 2014, 22:22:43 »

Yes I don't remember fitting anything long and thin on the 4 holes.

Ok, same procedure bit with a new tank. Plus fittings.

Yep, old tank out, new tank in, connect up the pipes and then deal with the old tank.

That's the intention .. old tank with 15 litres to remote location, remove from car and drive car away ...walk back to tank, loosen valve and walk away again .. :)
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« Reply #21 on: 27 February 2014, 22:30:16 »

I wonder if the fitting place are sending you down the garden path here.  A pick up disintegrating?  I mean really?

Could it not just be that you have picked up some rubbish from a dodgy lpg station and your liquid filter has clogged up a bit, enough that the pressure over 1/4 full will push enough LPG through but under 1/4 the pressure isn't enough.

Plus, they want £600 to replace a tank?  I hope they polish your knob too for that price!

Doesn't explain why there is no liquid in the feed pipe to the liquid filter ... only gaseous gas ... :( and the difference in pressure inside the tank between full and 1/4 is miniscule .. the pressure head is virtually the same throughout, caused by the saturation vapour pressure of propane at around 6 bar
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« Reply #22 on: 27 February 2014, 22:55:07 »

I wonder if the fitting place are sending you down the garden path here.  A pick up disintegrating?  I mean really?

Could it not just be that you have picked up some rubbish from a dodgy lpg station and your liquid filter has clogged up a bit, enough that the pressure over 1/4 full will push enough LPG through but under 1/4 the pressure isn't enough.

Plus, they want £600 to replace a tank?  I hope they polish your knob too for that price!

A quick and rough price check on Tinley .. all prices approximate as I'm not totally sure of the exact specs ... and the bits would have to be BRC Sequent compatible

4 hole 80 litre tank, including valves/box £202 + VAT = £242.40
Fuel level sender(if BRC compatible) around £18 + VAT = £21.60
Vapourisor Pressure Sensor(if BRC compatible) around £35 +VAT = £42.00

I'm guessing there will be some pipes/connectors that can't be re-used so probably another £25 + VAT = £30.00

so I make the parts around £336 (and I might have missed something ??), which means they're charging £300 labour to disconnect it all, remove the tank, fit the tank, connect it all up, test and warranty the work for a year. They said it would take a day to do .. so 6 hours ?? .. that's £50 an hour including VAT which is about the going rate AFAIK.

I'm not so sure I'm being bent over TBH ...
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« Reply #23 on: 27 February 2014, 23:05:05 »

It's not 6 hours work though, unless you were doing it for the 1st time.  Plus they will get their tanks and gubbins cheaper than on tinley's
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« Reply #24 on: 28 February 2014, 08:28:52 »

Tinley well known for not being cheap, but the service is excellent
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« Reply #25 on: 28 February 2014, 12:41:37 »

Tinley well known for not being cheap, but the service is excellent
Works out evens on the value for money front on that basis imho :y
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« Reply #26 on: 04 March 2014, 21:54:20 »

Got the car back today ... runing fine ATM .. but it does have a full gas tank.. the "proof" will be what happens when it gets down to empty ....

Breakdown of the bill ...  :(

Parts £319.83 - New tank, all the tank valves/gubbins, new front solenoid valve as it was full of corrosion/silt

Labour £247.50 - 4.5 hours @ £55.00

VAT £113.47

Total £680.80

Yup, its more than a DIY fix would have been, but the jobs jobbed and the car is available should Mrs E need moving in a hurry, plus the work is warranted for 12 months.

It'll pay for itself in 7 months, or one could argue it comes out of the savings of over £6500 the system has given me in the last 5 years! (and yup, that's AFTER taking out the conversion costs :) )

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« Reply #27 on: 04 March 2014, 21:57:02 »

Hopefully another job jobbed then :y
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« Reply #28 on: 05 March 2014, 06:52:13 »

Good stuff :y

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« Reply #29 on: 05 March 2014, 09:15:37 »

It's fixed and that's what matters  :y
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