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Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« on: 18 March 2014, 20:38:37 »

Well I have made the decision that I have thrown too much money at this car in the last month of owning it to give up with the old girl, But my god is it trying my patience  ::)

List of new parts and things done to date (since 22nd jan this year) are as follows:

Cylinder head gasket repair that consisted of, 16 thousands of an inch head skim, new head bolts, all top end gaskets including valve stem seals, re-grind of all 16 valves, oil and filter change, new Gates powerGrip timing belt and tensioners, new water pump, full cleaning of the EGR and breather system (including throttle body and inlet manifold clean) and new head bolts!

After she was running again I then found other underlying issues with the engine so went on to replace the MAF sensor, air filter, rubber tubes on the coil pack, Thermostat and housing (then had to fit the old housing because of the new part failing), HBV as it was leaking badly and Then most recently had to fit the new radiator due to the old unit physically Exploding.

During the most recent repairs I found that the Gearbox oil cooler was leaking somewhere around the pipes that feed to it and had to top up the gearbox due to poor shifting and it being low on oil. I have still to get to the bottom of the gearbox issue as after 30 miles the rough/missed 3rd gear is back again!

Today has really cheesed me off ... Went over to town which is about 7 miles and noticed that theres a slight, what appears to be a misfire  ??? It's only doing this at idle speeds and low road speeds but isn't throwing a code up or putting the EML on! 
It's definitely a problem as it's impacting economy (0.2 gal/h to 0.3gal/h on idle and from 26mpg around town it's dropped to 24mpg)! Out of panic I have checked for any signs of HGF .. No oil in water and vise versa also not gassing back into expansion tank, I think that rules that out then  :-X

Now I'm thinking that it must be the camshaft sensor as it's the only other "real" plausible thing to do that hasn't already been changed (especially with it being a 2.2 petrol)! I'm completely at a loss really, Am I even barking up the right tree?
I really want to keep this car for a long time, but my god it's fighting it  :D

Cheers Graham
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #1 on: 18 March 2014, 20:42:42 »

Any codes, as EML has come on?
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #2 on: 18 March 2014, 20:55:46 »

Any codes, as EML has come on?

No code, No EML  ??? ???
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #3 on: 18 March 2014, 21:16:29 »

Well I have made the decision that I have thrown too much money at this car in the last month of owning it to give up with the old girl, But my god is it trying my patience  ::)

List of new parts and things done to date (since 22nd jan this year) are as follows:

Cylinder head gasket repair that consisted of, 16 thousands of an inch head skim, new head bolts, all top end gaskets including valve stem seals, re-grind of all 16 valves, oil and filter change, new Gates powerGrip timing belt and tensioners, new water pump, full cleaning of the EGR and breather system (including throttle body and inlet manifold clean) and new head bolts!

After she was running again I then found other underlying issues with the engine so went on to replace the MAF sensor, air filter, rubber tubes on the coil pack, Thermostat and housing (then had to fit the old housing because of the new part failing), HBV as it was leaking badly and Then most recently had to fit the new radiator due to the old unit physically Exploding.

During the most recent repairs I found that the Gearbox oil cooler was leaking somewhere around the pipes that feed to it and had to top up the gearbox due to poor shifting and it being low on oil. I have still to get to the bottom of the gearbox issue as after 30 miles the rough/missed 3rd gear is back again!

Today has really cheesed me off ... Went over to town which is about 7 miles and noticed that theres a slight, what appears to be a misfire ??? It's only doing this at idle speeds and low road speeds but isn't throwing a code up or putting the EML on! 
It's definitely a problem as it's impacting economy (0.2 gal/h to 0.3gal/h on idle and from 26mpg around town it's dropped to 24mpg)! Out of panic I have checked for any signs of HGF .. No oil in water and vise versa also not gassing back into expansion tank, I think that rules that out then  :-X

Now I'm thinking that it must be the camshaft sensor as it's the only other "real" plausible thing to do that hasn't already been changed (especially with it being a 2.2 petrol)! I'm completely at a loss really, Am I even barking up the right tree?
I really want to keep this car for a long time, but my god it's fighting it  :D

Cheers Graham
Coilpack maybe  :-\

Although when mine started doing what your is doing it did give a code.
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #4 on: 18 March 2014, 21:17:52 »

Any codes, as EML has come on?

No code, No EML  ??? ???
Soz, misread OP, though you said it was bringing on EML  :-[
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #5 on: 18 March 2014, 21:35:27 »

Thats the thing ... no fault code makes me think more towards early cam sensor failure  ???
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #6 on: 18 March 2014, 21:42:54 »

Thats the thing ... no fault code makes me think more towards early cam sensor failure  ???
I'm less convinced.
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #7 on: 18 March 2014, 21:46:33 »

Any codes, as EML has come on?

No code, No EML  ??? ???
Does the EML come on with the ignition? It won't be on if no bulb in it :-\
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #8 on: 18 March 2014, 21:51:37 »

Thats the thing ... no fault code makes me think more towards early cam sensor failure  ???
When my Cam sensor failed on same car, it gave loads of stray codes 
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #9 on: 18 March 2014, 21:52:24 »

Thats the thing ... no fault code makes me think more towards early cam sensor failure  ???
When my Cam sensor failed on same car, it gave loads of stray codes
Does funny things to the slushbox as well iirc :-\
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #10 on: 18 March 2014, 21:58:24 »

Any codes, as EML has come on?

No code, No EML  ??? ???
Does the EML come on with the ignition? It won't be on if no bulb in it :-\

EML comes on with ignition, I just double checked ... Marks DTM Calib has said he will run the Tech 2 on it for me for £20 (including checking g/box level for me), I'm guessing that's the best option and he sounds like a top bloke ... well trusted here too  :y
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #11 on: 18 March 2014, 22:14:38 »

Bargain..
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #12 on: 18 March 2014, 22:30:10 »

don't rule out the coil pack mate, mine had some odd symptoms when it started to go, like a miss only between 800-1200 rpm but fine otherwise and would occasionaly drop a cylinder altogether.
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #13 on: 18 March 2014, 23:39:24 »

don't rule out the coil pack mate, mine had some odd symptoms when it started to go, like a miss only between 800-1200 rpm but fine otherwise and would occasionally drop a cylinder altogether.

That's kind of exactly as mine is behaving (at 700 - 1000 rpm, idle speed and setting off)... it's becoming worse REALLY fast!

If it's the coil pack though how would I test it first before replacing it ?? My dad's away for a while and he has his coil pack with him on his car lol  ;D
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Re: Yet more problems (what a surprise)
« Reply #14 on: 18 March 2014, 23:43:05 »

....
 and he sounds like a top bloke ... well trusted here too  :y

He's OK .......  ::) ::) ::) ;) :y
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