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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #15 on: 10 April 2014, 02:33:57 »

I did own an omega V6 remember. I know all about the good bits. I had it just over 12 months and, when I sold it to James, I gave him receipts for £1800.
Maybe I was unlucky, but my memories are not fond ones.

I don't think you are unlucky with your omega ... I also have been faced with the constant woes of omega ownership! My repairs and maintenance bill in 2 months (including the obligatory HGF that I did myself) set me back at almost £1500, I do have all of the receipts to unfortunately prove it too.... My overall running cost over 2200 miles is above £3 per mile (way cheaper to get a taxi)! These truly are god awful cars with horrendous repair costs (god help you if you dare fit a pattern part), For some reason I personally love them (I think I've lost it) and so do allot of others I guess! My recent transmission problems are most likely the final hay bale on the camels back though  :D  Looks like you have had an easy ride over your 14 years of ownership  ;D bet it can't do another 14 years   :-X  ;D
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #16 on: 10 April 2014, 04:46:51 »

Quite a list. But doesn't seem too bad to me. Given the miles and that most cars (Ford especially ime) are worn out after 100k odd.

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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #17 on: 10 April 2014, 04:51:49 »

Off the top of my head -
 
at 2 years - bubbling on frame of sun-roof - replaced by VX after a battle
at coming up 3 years new NCDC 2013 (intermittent fault)- had to get Siemens involved to confirm to VX item was faulty.
It had an top engine rebuild in 2003 as there was a problem with cylinder heads and an oil leak and a complete new engine in 2008 when VX messed up a cambelt change - all cost for VX.
2 changes of CID screen in 2007 and 2010.
Hardly a recommendation, Phil. If Vx hadn't been paying, that lot would have bankrupt a lot of people.
What are you on about Esta...?
If vx hadn't been servicing it the top end rebuild wouldn't of happened. Over torqued tensioner bolt iirc. The lummox's.
All that lot is warranty except the CID screens.
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #18 on: 10 April 2014, 08:01:09 »

Off the top of my head -
 
at 2 years - bubbling on frame of sun-roof - replaced by VX after a battle
at coming up 3 years new NCDC 2013 (intermittent fault)- had to get Siemens involved to confirm to VX item was faulty.
It had an top engine rebuild in 2003 as there was a problem with cylinder heads and an oil leak and a complete new engine in 2008 when VX messed up a cambelt change - all cost for VX.
2 changes of CID screen in 2007 and 2010.
Hardly a recommendation, Phil. If Vx hadn't been paying, that lot would have bankrupt a lot of people.
What are you on about Esta...?
If vx hadn't been servicing it the top end rebuild wouldn't of happened. Over torqued tensioner bolt iirc. The lummox's.
All that lot is warranty except the CID screens.

To be fair to VX on the 2004 engine job the dealer was considering a head skim but as it was an involved job they referred it to Luton who told them not to mess about and do a proper job.

The CID screens were refurbed in Germany at Stefan Electronic on German ebay. I think I may have wiring fault in this area as a number of general electrical gremlins appear and disappear.

Interior is absolutely fine and no issues with anything so far despite all the fancy bits.

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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #19 on: 10 April 2014, 10:14:11 »

I have had my Omega for 7 years and 120k miles.

In addition to a sensible level of routine maintenance, it's had:

2 crank sensors
1 thermostat
1 HBV
3 central locking motors repaired
2 sets of front wishbone bushes
1 set of rear doughnut bushes
1 pair of drop links
1 wiper motor
2 cat back exhausts
1 voltage regulator
1 battery

Nothing unexpected or particularly expensive there. I put that down to the fact that it's been looked after, as I've owned it since it had 40k on the clock. If you don't keep up with the routine maintenance you can't really complain if it causes trouble and, sadly, a full main dealer service history is no guarantee of that. Omegas are old enough now that most will have been through a period where they haven't been properly maintained, and this will probably cause a chain of problems to sort out in the first year or two of ownership before it settles down to be the reliable car it deserves to be.

At 162k my car drives better than a Ford would at 100k, despite being on original shocks and springs. These cars really do last well if they are maintained to a decent standard.
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #20 on: 10 April 2014, 18:37:27 »

and, sadly, a full main dealer service history is no guarantee of that.
Indeed, my 2003 Elite came with full dealer history, and its taking me a long time to overcome that level of abuse.

My 1998 MV6 has been in my grubby hands since 2003, and self serviced, except a period when I came a cropper on the bike, and was unable to do anything for a good few months.  That is a lovely car, bar the rust that plagues all Omegas.
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #21 on: 10 April 2014, 23:37:03 »

Trying to remember....

2 coil pacs due to loose windscreen seal and scuttle.
1 lambda sensor. To keep lpg happy, probably ok on petrol.
1 stat
1 wiper rod
1 set cam cover seals
2 wheel bearings
1 set poly bushes front
2 sets gm vertical bushes front
2 x set up at wim
1 pair rear donut bushes ( most people wouldn't of bothered with these tbh)
1 glove box latch failure
1 pair drop links
2 dowty washers on rad sensors.
1 Steering box (again, some wouldn't bother)
1 Steering idler

There's been a shed loads of other work but that's a preference thing on my part, not a failure thing on the cars part. Only 110k though.


Heated seat and fuse 14 faults with the seats dont count as the seats aren't original to the car.
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #22 on: 11 April 2014, 00:27:49 »

Oh, mine has had cam cover gaskets too, actually. They were changed at 120k but when I did so I found no leakage into the plug wells and that most of the cam cover bolts had come undone. The gaskets might well have been OK if I'd tightened up the bolts. ;D
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #23 on: 11 April 2014, 06:10:15 »

Trying to remember....

2 coil pacs due to loose windscreen seal and scuttle.
1 lambda sensor. To keep lpg happy, probably ok on petrol.
1 stat
1 wiper rod
1 set cam cover seals
2 wheel bearings
1 set poly bushes front
2 sets gm vertical bushes front
2 x set up at wim
1 pair rear donut bushes ( most people wouldn't of bothered with these tbh)
1 glove box latch failure
1 pair drop links
2 dowty washers on rad sensors.
1 Steering box (again, some wouldn't bother)
1 Steering idler

There's been a shed loads of other work but that's a preference thing on my part, not a failure thing on the cars part. Only 110k though.


Heated seat and fuse 14 faults with the seats dont count as the seats aren't original to the car.
That's a lot of money for repairs, but probably about right for an omega.
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #24 on: 11 April 2014, 09:07:05 »

80k to 170k for me on the 2.2, also trying to think of everything:

2 x Cat Back exhausts
2 x Droplinks
2 x exhaust flexi's
1 x Window door motor
1 x Drivers Door Motor
1 x Cam Sensor
1 x Cam Cover gaskets
2 x of rear set coil springs (KYB are shite!)
1 x stat
1 x set of front shocks
1 x set of front wishbones
1 x steering idler
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #25 on: 11 April 2014, 10:18:03 »

Given that anything that moves or flexes is ultimately a wear and tear component, I include suspension bushes/exhausts/wheel bearings etc in this list, mine is a fairly short list...

Heater matrix.
Radiator.
Engine loom.
Aircon condensor.
Fuel pump, twice.
Engine mount.
Gear box mount.
Crank rear oil seal.
Gearbox rear oil seal.
Rear headlight level sensor (mechanical failure due to sensor/puddle argument).
Handful of instrument bulbs.
Cam cover gaskets (first time is basically a 80-100k service requirement, subsequent changes should be unnecessary)

Not included accident damaged components, as shit happens. But still not a bad list for a 265k mile ex police car/taxi :y
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #26 on: 11 April 2014, 16:54:27 »

On the Silver Bullet, owned over 10yrs, 88k to 215k

Exhaust (now on 4th) in my ownership
Crank sensor x 2
HG
A/C compressor (a few, needs another ;D)
Rear spring
Front shocks x 2
Rear shocks x 1
Coolant bottle (electric fault with sensor)
Door locking motors (several)
Can I include wheels, as the PFL MV6 ones were made of chocolate. x8
Windscreen
Mirror glass (lost a fight with a hedge)
Doors x 4, rust
Stat

Brakes/tyres/bulbs/fluids/filters/belts are all service parts, so not included


TBE, owned for nearly 4 (or is it 5), 54k to 83k
(excluding having a garage land on it)
Coil pack
Stat
Door motor
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #27 on: 11 April 2014, 17:06:17 »

Never had a failed crank sensor on any car let alone an Omega , what do you all do to wreck them  ;D
Replaced nothing on this MV6 ... thats going to change when the handbrake gets seen to  ::)
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #28 on: 11 April 2014, 22:07:02 »

  Have owned my Omega 2.2 for the best part of eight years. 40k to 111k had to replace
    Rear springs once
    Rear shocks once
    Cat to back exhaust once, 
    H/G and seals.
    Coolant tank.
    Pair wishbones  February 14
    Pair Drop links   March 14
    Windscreen,  Pebble damage
    Cam cover gasket, twice.
     Small dia breather pipe (split)
    MAF Sensor.     Have original, did not need new, as above.
     HBV,  boy did that leak take some finding.
    Pair front wheel bearings (only one gone)
       Have small patches of rust at the front bottom of rear wheel arch, I must fix this summer.
 On my third Cambelt and water pump.
    ALL original:-  Cam, crank, CO2 sensors
 Must have missed something, don't think she's done to bad, though  :y 
   
   
 

   
   
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Re: Non service items that wear out or fail as Omegas age
« Reply #29 on: 11 April 2014, 23:18:47 »

Trying to remember....

2 coil pacs due to loose windscreen seal and scuttle. £70 each local factors. Genuine bosch
1 lambda sensor. To keep lpg happy, probably ok on petrol. £50 genuine bosch
1 stat. £?
1 wiper rod. £18 iirc
1 set cam cover seals £90? On tc
2 wheel bearings £50 each fag all German.
1 set poly bushes front £50
2 sets gm vertical bushes front £14 each on tc
2 x set up at wim £70 each
1 pair rear donut bushes ( most people wouldn't of bothered with these tbh) £48 iirc
1 glove box latch failure £pence
1 pair drop links £38 on tc
2 dowty washers on rad sensors. Couple of quid
1 Steering box (again, some wouldn't bother)
1 Steering idler £90 on tc

There's been a shed loads of other work but that's a preference thing on my part, not a failure thing on the cars part. Only 110k though.


Heated seat and fuse 14 faults with the seats dont count as the seats aren't original to the car.
That's a lot of money for repairs, but probably about right for an omega.

Feel free to do the maths, v cost of a new/newer car.

Mine cost 3k. + parts only.
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