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[cd 2.2]

It's mostly unusable at the moment and Marks is a fair drive for me (I don't trust it for that distance anymore)! I can't advertise the car on here after my previous rage quit  And I don't know how much I should even ask for it with about 3 months T&T on it ... overall average condition and everything works .... Been considering swapping it for a volvo 740,940 or similar older rwd car as the electrics on them is far simpler.

when I went to check the front lambda sensor connector the wire came apart, someone in the past (not me before it's said) had fitted one of those splice it in yourself sensors. All the 4 wires had come loose and even after re-connecting them all P0170 remained!

Given that you found bodged wiring causing intermittent connections on your lambda sensor I wonder if there are other crimp connections that you haven't found yet?

Given the nature of the previous owner I guess this is plausible, but I have had the most of the engine apart already and found nothing then (I did miss the Lambda sensor though). Everything "seems" to be in pretty good order really, I think someone more knowledgeable with newer car electrics would have more chance of turning this car into a good daily runner, better chance than I have anyway 

[symes]

just an idea check connector that plug into gearbox--got my miggy really cheap due to gearbox issues--it was connector up behind selector on gearbox--was a pain -but got it done-

[cd 2.2]

just an idea check connector that plug into gearbox--got my miggy really cheap due to gearbox issues--it was connector up behind selector on gearbox--was a pain -but got it done-

Just almost came to this myself after reading this on mig web

Vehicle Speed Sensor Strategies: A problem with the vehicle speed sensor can disable the cruise-control system as well as affect transmission shifting and converter engagement.

Replacing a sensor won’t solve a drivability or emissions problem if the problem isn’t the sensor. Common conditions such as fouled spark plugs, bad plug wires, a weak ignition coil, a leaky EGR valve, vacuum leaks, low compression, dirty injectors, low fuel pressure or even low charging voltage can all cause driveability symptoms that may be blamed on a bad sensor. If there’s are no sensor-specific fault codes, these kinds of possibilities should be ruled out before much time is spent on electronic diagnosis.

Could the speed sensor on the rear of the box be the issue (given that I have no OBDII codes available from ECU

Getting really stressed with it now as when it behaves it's great to drive. If I flog it and find out it's a simple thing i'm going to have an aneurysm Thanks for your help on this one as I'm losing the ability to think rationally about this 

[cd 2.2]

A little more progress on this situation has happened, It's not what I wanted to find but hey it's found now 

Drained off a little bit of the ATF out of the gearbox into a glass jar, It's black and it stinks burned really bad! Not just dark brown, I mean black with a brown tinge, it's so bad you can barely even see light through it 

I'm guessing that this means that something has burned out in the transmission and i'm unsure whether just a fluid change for this would be appropriate given the expense of a new filter, the sump gaskets and the new oil I guess it would explain a lot with the bad gear changes and missed gears along with the limp mode being present ... Question is, what to do about it now ?

I know AR25 boxes are cheap as chips, but I'm wary of buying a used one as I don't have anything concrete to say how it was on the previous car other than the buyers word (and we all know what some people are like)! For me there are few options A] Sell the car with a dead gearbox and get nothing for it! B] Source a used AR25 transmission and battle to change it on my own! or C] Take the car over the bridge and cut my losses as I don't want to break it for spares due to the lack of space and storage with having my brothers Princess in the garage atm!

I haven't the cash to pay a garage to do the work for me so that's well out of the question, the damn thing has already bled me dry and I don't even have any reserves left    .... So yeah pretty stumped now really 

[henryd]

See if one of the Mig breakers here has a gearbox available before looking elsewhere but this needs proper diagnostics on it first,dirty atf  doesn't always mean a knackered gearbox

[symes]

See if one of the Mig breakers here has a gearbox available before looking elsewhere but this needs proper diagnostics on it first,dirty atf  doesn't always mean a knackered gearbox

+1

[cd 2.2]

I'm very split minded as to what to do to be honest, I have put it up for sale here http://autoshite.com/topic/16537-would-anyone-have-any-interest-in-this/  .... I think I want to change it for an old volvo 740 as I have good memories of these (my dad had them for the best part of 6 years) and I know that electrically they are really very simple so I won't have that in the way of things! Asking £500 or in that region for the mig as The parts and work alone are worth more than that 

[martin42]

Its POPCORN time 

[SIR Philbutt]

I recall you posting about this problem before.

Did you refresh the atf at the time ? and it has the atf now become like this or did you do nothing

Reason is that if the atf has been in this state this could be the problem.

The cost, and ease, of doing a filter/fluid change - and poss a 3rd gear solenoid change - could resolve the prob

[cd 2.2]

I hear what you're saying phil, there just is no more money available at all ... not a penny! The ATF looked brownish but very red initially when when I took everything to pieces, the change in colour happened over the last 2 weeks and I did have to fill the box up (total 2 litres overall after a leak at the cooler end)! I only noticed the change in smell mostly when I came to renew the cooler o rings the other day, It smells a bit like burned coffee but more chemically than that and it was very noticeably darker than when I topped it up! If I could afford to replace the filter and the ATF on a chance of fixing it, I would have already done it. But as I said before, this car has bled me dry and I have no more money spare (I have bigger priorities than the car needing to be fixed every 10 miles).
I'm giving it a couple of weeks to sell ... I think I'm reasonable on my price given the condition of things overall (correct me if I'm wrong though please), If she doesn't sell, well, I think we all know what is going to happen to it. I am unwilling to break it up as it makes a big ugly mess and I need to get a car that actually works when I need it to, not when it feels like it!  I will not spend another £213 + some Vat on ATF a filter and a solenoid it's just not worth it to me, my luck something else will just break immediately after doing the job (I have no confidence in the car ever being reliable for me) 

[SIR Philbutt]

OK - i give in 

You could always do what i did. Buy another 2.2, as they are so cheap, and use the old one for spares, cost effective in some ways.

Although swmbo is getting sick of it being on the drive after 2 years 

Yes I know - no money, sick of car, had enough, want something different, etc, etc. Do sympathise really 

[cd 2.2]

I have a spares car ... but not until July  ...... But that makes me wonder if it would be worth laying this one up until then 

Why are these choices soo hard ?? It's only a frikin tin box 

[davieboy0312]

I have a 2.2 auto box here you can have it free of if it helps mate

[SIR Philbutt]

I have a 2.2 auto box here you can have it free of if it helps mate

There is also one on my spares car you can have for free, although the 3rd gear solenoid has gone, but it does have a new filter. I was having the same prob as you 

[cd 2.2]

I have a 2.2 auto box here you can have it free of if it helps mate

There is also one on my spares car you can have for free, although the 3rd gear solenoid has gone, but it does have a new filter. I was having the same prob as you

What was wrong with yours in the end phil, if you don't mind me asking?
Very interested in the filter proposition also