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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #30 on: 22 April 2014, 14:39:18 »

My daughter has just acquired a new Merc SLK with steel folding roof for the paltry sum of £158 a month. :o
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« Reply #31 on: 22 April 2014, 14:40:33 »

My daughter has just acquired a new Merc SLK with steel folding roof for the paltry sum of £158 a month. :o

That's a super low cost, friend/family discount?
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #32 on: 22 April 2014, 14:55:31 »

How much deposit/final payment? Guessing around £5k/£12k respectively...
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #33 on: 22 April 2014, 15:26:02 »

If you buy old cars you will feel that it is a total waste of money.

If you buy new cars, then leasing may suit you. I know from my own experience that I'm financially better off over a five year period leasing, but then both of my Omega's cost over £20K each just to purchase, as they were both only a few months old when I bought them. Our other cars, purchase prices in excess of £46K each, cost £2K less to lease over the five year period than the financed one, but you do walk away with nothing at the end of it.
Omega Elite No.1 was around £22K to buy, kept for five years and then chopped in for another nearly new Omega 3.2 Elite. I got around £2K trade in as part exchange. The finance cycle started again so, after another five years, I owned a car that was worth peanuts and I was about £42K lighter over the ten year period.  :o :o I still own Omega No.2 so it now costs very little, so it is not worth getting rid off. All of the figures above were plus the usual running costs.

By comparison, the lease car was, no deposit, no tax, no insurance, no nothing. All you had to do was stick fuel in it. It was changed annually, with each one having a purchase price in excess of £46K, and I was about £2K better off over a five year period. But, you do have to look after them, which is not a problem for me, and you do walk away with nothing at the end of it.

So, for someone like me, who buys new or nearly new cars, there is not much in it, but for someone who buys cars a few years old, it will break your heart knowing that a large sum of money is being taken off you each month.  ;D

Should add that this was through a car company scheme, not a High Street garage.  :y
 






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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #34 on: 22 April 2014, 17:52:04 »

No, no and no...
A bank loan is as bad as leasing. The only way to finance a car is with an Hp agreement.

Stitch yourself up with a bank loan and if the car's written off then you're still stuck with the payments. At least if everything goes tits up with Hp then you're only luable for the first half of it...

Yes and no.  ::)

Hire purchase you can hand the car back in the first half of the deal and pay half of the agreement, but once you are past the half way point you are committed to the full purchase.  Although if you want to settle early you only pay the interest up to the point that you settle.  :y

However, HP interest rates are generally alot higher than bank loan rates.  :(
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #35 on: 22 April 2014, 18:05:39 »

My daughter has just acquired a new Merc SLK with steel folding roof for the paltry sum of £158 a month. :o

That's a super low cost, friend/family discount?
She has just informed me that it was on their business account, sorry :-[
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« Reply #36 on: 22 April 2014, 18:51:51 »

No, no and no...
A bank loan is as bad as leasing. The only way to finance a car is with an Hp agreement.

Stitch yourself up with a bank loan and if the car's written off then you're still stuck with the payments. At least if everything goes tits up with Hp then you're only luable for the first half of it...

Yes and no.  ::)

Hire purchase you can hand the car back in the first half of the deal and pay half of the agreement, but once you are past the half way point you are committed to the full purchase.  Although if you want to settle early you only pay the interest up to the point that you settle.  :y

However, HP interest rates are generally alot higher than bank loan rates.  :(
That depends... currently have two agreements, one HP and one bank loan. Both for similar amounts over the same term. One costs me £444 a month, tother, £284.

Would you care to guess which is which :-\
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #37 on: 22 April 2014, 19:04:06 »

No, no and no...
A bank loan is as bad as leasing. The only way to finance a car is with an Hp agreement.

Stitch yourself up with a bank loan and if the car's written off then you're still stuck with the payments. At least if everything goes tits up with Hp then you're only luable for the first half of it...

Yes and no.  ::)

Hire purchase you can hand the car back in the first half of the deal and pay half of the agreement, but once you are past the half way point you are committed to the full purchase.  Although if you want to settle early you only pay the interest up to the point that you settle.  :y

However, HP interest rates are generally alot higher than bank loan rates.  :(
That depends... currently have two agreements, one HP and one bank loan. Both for similar amounts over the same term. One costs me £444 a month, tother, £284.

Would you care to guess which is which :-\

But what are the interest rates?
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #38 on: 22 April 2014, 19:10:06 »

18% vs 7.9% iirc...
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #39 on: 22 April 2014, 19:16:33 »

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Omega Elite No.1 was around £22K to buy,  .....

 :o Wow! That's a lot of money ..... just think what £22k would buy you in the second hand market today  ;)
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #40 on: 22 April 2014, 19:28:18 »

18% vs 7.9% iirc...

So HP 18% and loan 7.9?
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« Reply #41 on: 22 April 2014, 19:35:37 »

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Omega Elite No.1 was around £22K to buy,  .....

 :o Wow! That's a lot of money ..... just think what £22k would buy you in the second hand market today  ;)

I couldn't believe just how much money I lost on the first one, so I did it again five years later, just to make sure.  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #42 on: 22 April 2014, 19:39:36 »

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« Reply #43 on: 22 April 2014, 19:42:15 »

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I couldn't believe just how much money I lost on the first one, so I did it again five years later, just to make sure.  ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D and you were right?!?!  ;D ;D
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Re: Private car leasing (not business)
« Reply #44 on: 22 April 2014, 19:42:23 »

18% vs 7.9% iirc...

So HP 18% and loan 7.9?
Guess again ;D

Other way around then, but still that HP loan APR is about twice as much as a good loan. Sub 5% should be easy enough to find with a good credit rating.

As for that 18%  :o

Someone saw you coming, use Vaseline did they?  ;D
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